Talk:Shaanxi Baojii Special Vehicles Lie Ying Falcon

Name

@Ahunt: On the revert you have made:

• Your claim that the name is different is not correct. The aircraft's name, Lie Ying, written as 猎鹰 in Chinese, mean Falcon. But when the two characters are read and translated separately, the character 猎 mean hunt/hunting/etc., while the character 鹰 mean eagle. This is presumably how the alternative translation emerge on the internet.
• 2019 is not the introduction date. It was the year when the aircraft appeared on China's national day military parade, where it gained attention inside and outside China. And the alternatively translated name is used on internet across various reports when such attention made into the news.
• The company's website now have two autogyro entry. But they are respectively named "Lie Ying" two seats autogyro and "Lie Ying" three seats autogyro. With some 3-seater photos mixed into the 2-seater page also. English version of the website didn't make this distinction and simply call all of them "gyroplane". Photo on the page containing spec sheet also match the spec listed in this Wiki article. So it can be concluded that "Lie Ying" is the only autogyro product produced by the company.

-- C933103 (talk) 23:02, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Okay, translations are often confusing. I think we need to explain this, though in the article. - Ahunt (talk) 00:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Cannot find reliable resource explaining how the name is come up. At most only sources that list the Chinese and the laternative English name together to confirm they are indeed referring to the same thing. Also, the article's current claim of it start flying from 2015 is possibly wrong too, as the website have a photo of it flying in 2014 according to what they claim themselves, althouth it didn't say whether the aircraft have entered service at the time or just test flying. C933103 (talk) 10:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Well if you have a ref that gives the alternate name than let's go with that. I am sure the dates are very fuzzy, as they often are with aircraft from China. - Ahunt (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Consider this: https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CASI/documents/2019_Oct_PRC_Parade_Aerospace_Power_Recap.pdf?ver=2019-11-01-114023-900 C933103 (talk) 14:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Armament

The Falcon can bei armed with missiles, the article doesnt mention the possible armament 88.128.92.147 (talk) 10:55, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

See WP:BURDEN. - Ahunt (talk) 12:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Can anyone identify the missile in the picture? 2A01:599:224:43F1:7897:72A5:30B4:E916 (talk) 15:53, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Which picture are you referring to? - Ahunt (talk) 16:00, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Maybe the picture in the article showing a the 3 seater with a missile? 88.128.92.45 (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

That would be WP:OR. - Ahunt (talk) 21:11, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

If you only describe the picture in the source? 88.128.92.45 (talk) 21:20, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

We can't identify missiles from photos ourselves and put in the article, as that would be guessing. To identify the missile we need a reliable source that says what it is. - Ahunt (talk) 21:22, 9 August 2023 (UTC)