Talk:Shades of white

vague definition of white

This article contrasts shades of white or off-white with "pure" white, so the comparison should treat white properly:

"White is a color, the perception of which is evoked by light that stimulates all three types of color sensitive cone cells in the human eye in equal amounts" -- equal amounts by what measure? Radiation power? Number of photons? Intuitively, I would rather state that white amounts to equal perception of all color components, not actual stimulation of cone cells, but I'm probably wrong with that too.

Note also that if white amounts to equal stimulation, then the "web color" #ffffff is generally not white, and whether it is depends on the color temperature of the monitor.

"White is the lightest possible color." -- The lightest possible color of what set of colors? The white colors presented here are definitely darker than sunlight. --82.113.106.83 (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

The color code request

The color code for Blond was #FAF0BE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegoFan506 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Alabaster

I went to the Sherwin-Williams site to look for coordinates and they appear to list:

Sherwin-Williams site : R: 237 G: 234 B: 224 Hex Value: #edeae0 Color coordinates  : R: 242 G: 240 B: 230 Hex value: F2F0E6

why are the values in the color coordinates template different from the Sherwin-Williams site--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:27, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

My action

Alabaster was first included with this edit by an IP.

In addition had some advantages—it included a source, and it included a description of the color. Unfortunately, the color description was almost certainly a copyright violation so I removed it from history (RD1).

The description had been replaced but by a description of the mineral not the color. I haven't fully investigated whether that description constitutes a copyright violation but I found some sources suggesting it originally came from Wikipedia so it might not be properly attributed but I'll leave that for now. I'll reemphasize that this is a description of a mineral and this is presumably an article about the color, so I think it should be simply removed. I did not remove it.

The color attributes in the color coordinates template and in the swatch on the left side of the page are almost exactly (although curiously, not exactly) the same as the color attributes of the color as discussed at Benjamin Moore. (The Benjamin Moore attributes are R: 243 G: 240 B:233 #F3F0E9 )

This article discusses the Sherwin Williams version of color. Not surprisingly, their version has slightly different attributes, but the article currently lists attributes in the color coordinates and the swatch templates approximately but not exactly equal to the Benjamin Moore values and not equal to the Sherwin-Williams values.

In addition, the HSV values don't appear to be remotely correct. Perhaps I misunderstand the conversion but I'm going to go with values suggested here.

I'm not fully sure what should be done but as a short-term measure, I'm going to change the templates so that they refer to the Sherwin-Williams color.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:04, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

I went to a paint store and asked for "Swiss Coffee", an off-white. The response was "whose Swiss Coffee", rattled off a list of manufacturer's and that they were all different. I would image that alabaster is no different. Natural alabaster can be quite varied. Jim1138 (talk) 05:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

This seems to be a general problem and may imply a fundamental need to rewrite many of our articles about color. As an example, I recently looked at the color "baby blue eyes", and found multiple different versions:Talk:Baby_blue#Baby_blue_eyes_issues. If we do a wholesale change, it probably should be applied to alabaster as well but at the moment the article clearly refers to this Sherwin-Williams color, so while it doesn't yet hint that there can be other versions of alabaster, I think the current wording is fine for the moment.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Possible removal from list

Colors removed

Entries in List of colors: A–F contained links to this page. The entries are : Chinese white Cookies and cream Dirty white Gin Guyabano Entries in List of colors: G–M contained links to this page. Lotion An entry in List of colors: N–Z contained a link to this page. The entry is : Tooth White coffee I don't see any evidence that these colors are discussed in this article and plan to delete them from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries If someone decides that these colors should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:02, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Astronaut white?

The Space Needle page talks about this shade of white; maybe some information could be added here.

Baby powder

I think this entry:Shades_of_white#Baby_powder is flawed. If you go to the Wikipedia page about these crayons, you will see that there are a series of crayons based on scents. The names refer to the stent not the color. In each case there is a name of the crayon and in parentheses the associated color. In this particular case the reference to "baby powder" is to the scent while the color is white.

My focus is on the color lists articles (e.g. List_of_colors:_A–F) so I plan to remove this entry from the list. I may have time when done to return to edit this article but based on the slow progress through the list article that's more than a year away so I hope someone will improve this entry.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

I think that where colour names are just arbitrary ones chosen by individual manufacturers, be it crayons, paints, or whatever, they have no place in articles like this, since the names tend to be idiosyncratic and conflicting and rarely enter common usage. Only where several different makers use the same name for similar shades should credence be given to such names. Wikipedia is not a paint catalog! Samatarou (talk) 21:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

New Shade of White: Indominus White.

Indominus White: It's a grayish-white color that's after the indominus rex. 96.42.85.224 (talk) 18:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)