Talk:Shadow congressperson

Existant

Though this particular article does not technically refer to existing members of Congress, it represents a very relevant (and peculiar) facet of American Government. I think an interesting factoid such as this belongs within the fold of our WikiProject. ~ Ross (ElCharismo) 15:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Animosity

It's congresshuman, not congressperson! Human is way better for appeasing feminist morons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.231.68.81 (talk) 20:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

• Speciesist! "Congresshuman" promotes discrimination against non-humans. On behalf of any animal that is actually smarter than a congresshuman, I protest! The proper term should be "congresscritter." 8-) CWesling (talk) 20:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
• I, in fact, object to the assertion that a "congresscritter" must even be an animal-clearly we require "Congressorganisms". 72.224.172.14 (talk) 17:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Move lists of officeholders here

Since the shadow senators and shadow representative are not federal positions and are not recognized by Congress, I think the lists of the officeholders should be in this article, not in United States congressional delegations from the District of Columbia (which could link to here). Treating them as part of the congressional delegation exacerbates the confusion with the House delegate. Besides, the whole point of their existence is that they're not part of the congressional delegation. —KCinDC (talk) 21:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• Makes perfect sense to me, but apparently this page doesn't get viewed very often. Be bold and go for it. CWesling (talk) 20:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I decided to go for it.oknazevad (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violations

Please refrain from readding copyrighted material copied from here. Hekerui (talk) 09:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed accuracy on alleged Puerto Rico shadow legislators

Puerto Rico does not elect any shadow U.S. legislators and governor Rosselló does not have the authority to appoint such posts. Please provide reliable sources for these claims or the information will be removed as it's innacurate. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 03:28, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Interim officeholders were appointed by Rosello and confirmed by the Puerto Rican Senate until elections can be held to determine their replacements. A law was passed creating the authority to do that. Astrofreak92 (talk) 03:04, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

• We cannot use the term 'officeholder' because that term is used for elected officials. PRican shadow congressmen were not elected nor is any election planned to elect them. Act No. 30 of 2017 created the post, but it establishes that the shadow congressmen are and will be appointed by the governor, not by election (source: the act itself, in English, from the official website of the PR Legislative Services). The source you provided does not back up your claim that "Interim officeholders were appointed [...] until elections can be held to determine their replacements." —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Officeholder is not a term reserved for elected officials. Appointed officials are termed "officeholders" as well.Astrofreak92 (talk) 00:35, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Removed mention of future elections from the Senate table, per Ahnoneemoos's source. Carter (talk) 14:54, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Curiosity

How are these persons chosen? By direct appointment by Governor/Mayor of by referendum/election? Wouldn't the celebration expenditure of the latter be a crime of (economic) (public servant) embezzlement? (as alleged in the Catalonian referendum) Ping me. ※ Sobreira ◣◥ ፧ (parlez)⁇﹖ 12:47, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Changing Wikilink to from Felix Santoni to Felix A. Santoni

I am changing the link in the Shadow_congressperson#Puerto Rico shadow representatives section from Felix Santoni to Felix A. Santoni. While the latter page does not currently exist, the former page pretty clearly does not refer to the same individual. (Someone who died in 1959 is unlikely to have served as a representative in 2017 and 2018.) Trackerwannabe (talk) 15:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)