Talk:Shady Grove station

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This article needs clarification or disambiguation. Currently it is linked to from "Quicksilver Messenger Service" as an album title. I do not know enough about wiki practices to do this myself, however. -Ben-San AZ

Thanks for the heads up; I whipped up a little disambiguation page at Shady Grove. --Golbez 17:14, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

merge proposal

I find the 1996 Gaithersburg Metrorail Accident to be ridiculously short. It is only two paragraphs long and that is likely to get as large as it is now. I propose merging that artilce into this one, just like how it was done with the 2004 accident at Woodley Park-Zoo. I mean, we don't have a Woodley Park-Zoo Revenue Train Accident, do we? Hbdragon88 02:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, and here's why. The 1996 accident at Shady Grove was a fatal accident that exposed an alarming aspect of Metro's culture, where you follow the policy to the letter even if all parties involved know that an exception to the rule is necessary for fear of one's job. This article is on my to-do list, as I fully intend to expand it out to a full-length article, based on the NTSB's report on the accident. Give me a chance, please. SchuminWeb (Talk) 10:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, if it's going to be expanded, then by all means go for it. I removed the merge notices, by the way. The significance of the train accident wasn't quite fully expressed in the article as it stands now, and I was curious why it wasn't merged into the main station article like the Woodly Park-Zoo accident had been. - Hbdragon88 23:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. You've also provided good inspiration for me to re-read up on the incident so as to write a good, strong article on it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:53, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

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Requested move 23 December 2014

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. There appears to be consensus for the proposed moves Number 57 16:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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• Shady Grove (WMATA station) → Shady Grove Station
• Rockville (WMATA station) → Rockville Station (WMATA)
• Twinbrook (WMATA station) → Twinbrook Station
• White Flint (WMATA station) → White Flint Station
• Grosvenor–Strathmore (WMATA station) → Grosvenor–Strathmore Station
• Medical Center (WMATA station) → Medical Center Station (Maryland)
• Bethesda (WMATA station) → Bethesda Station
• Friendship Heights (WMATA station) → Friendship Heights Station
• Tenleytown–AU (WMATA station) → Tenleytown–AU Station
• Van Ness – UDC (WMATA station) → Van Ness – UDC Station
• Cleveland Park (WMATA station) → Cleveland Park Station
• Woodley Park (WMATA station) → Woodley Park Station
• Dupont Circle (WMATA station) → Dupont Circle Station
• Farragut North (WMATA station) → Farragut North Station
• Metro Center (WMATA station) → Metro Center Station
• Judiciary Square (WMATA station) → Judiciary Square Station
• Union Station (WMATA station) → Union Station (WMATA)
• NoMa – Gallaudet U (WMATA station) → NoMa – Gallaudet U Station
• Rhode Island Avenue – Brentwood (WMATA station) → Rhode Island Avenue – Brentwood Station
• Brookland – CUA (WMATA station) → Brookland – CUA Station
• Takoma (WMATA station) → Takoma Station
• Silver Spring (WMATA station) → Silver Spring Station (WMATA)
• Forest Glen (WMATA station) → Forest Glen Station (Maryland)
• Wheaton (WMATA station) → Wheaton Station (Maryland)
• Glenmont (WMATA station) → Glenmont Station

– Following the move of the Green Line stations per the new WP:USSTATION guideline, these stations should have WP:NATURAL disambiguation (and eventually, consistency within the whole system). I think consensus there can be interpreted as a mandate to move them all, but for now, I thought this would be helpful for more pairs of eyes to check for possible naming conflicts. Note that Medical Center needs disambiguation. I think Metro Center is fine, but see MetroCentre#Railway stations. If it needs further disambiguation, it would be Metro Center (Washington, D.C.). --BDD (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Union Station is a mess for a name, Even though Metro itself uses (for ex.)"White Flint Station" on the pylon, I believe it uses "Union Station" on the pylons there. I googled wmata.com for "Union Station". I got 10k hits for "Union Station" and *four* hits for "union station station" (one for "Union station station page" from Capital Bikeshare, two for "Union Station station entrance" and *one* refering to "Union Station station" standalone. I support Union Station (WMATA) as the best of the bad choices for a name.Naraht (talk) 18:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Silver Spring needs to be Silver Spring Station (WMATA) as there is another Silver Spring station. Mangoe (talk) 19:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done --BDD (talk) 20:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose "Rockville Station" -- Rockville Railroad Station , Rockville Air Force Station , Rockville Air Station (Iceland) , Rockville Centre (LIRR station) -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:02, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose "Metro Center Station" -- Fairfield Metro Center, MetroCentre railway station, 7th St/Metro Center (LACMTA station) -- this should instead be a redirect to MetroCentre -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:21, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Oppose "Forest Glen Station" -- Forest Glen (Metra station) ; this should redirect to Forest Glen -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
      • Oppose "Wheaton Staton" -- Wheaton (Metra station) -- this should redirect to Wheaton -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
        • So? We can have Metro Center Station (Washington, D.C.) or Metro Center Station (Washington Metro) (I prefer the latter; "(Maryland)" or "(Virginia)" just doesn't work out). In general, I don't see why we have to move all the station titles (it's not broken). Epicgenius (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
• Comment when Takoma is moved, it should carry a hatnote for Tacoma Station -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:24, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
• Hold pending the outcome of Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 December#Greenbelt Station, which is being used erroneously as a precedent for capitalization. I might also oppose for other reasons, but let's get this figured out first. Dicklyon (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
• Problem: User:Epicgenius has gone ahead and moved a bunch of these pages, and more, with capitalized "Station", citing the Greenbelt RM as reason, without waiting for the resolution of the case question or this RM discussion or others. Dicklyon (talk) 00:38, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh. I did not know about this RM. Sorry. (By the way, I moved all the stations in the entire system, so someone may want to fix that. Thanks.) Epicgenius (talk) 12:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
    • Oh, well. May as well vote. I reluctantly support a standardisation of titles, including moving pages to use the "Station" suffix. However, just so you know, these renamings are all unnecessary. Epicgenius (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
      • Also, if this RM passes, can Medical Center (WMATA station) be renamed to Medical Center Station (WMATA) instead of Medical Center Station (Maryland), just for the sake of consistency? We already have Union Station (WMATA) and Silver Spring Station (WMATA) proposed. Wouldn't hurt to apply a uniform naming system. Epicgenius (talk) 15:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

USSTATION recommends disambiguating by state first. --BDD (talk) 16:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

@BDD: Yeah, if it's a railway system spanning multiple states, but this is a metropolitan area rapid transit system, so Washington Metro comes to the reader's mind first. Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• Support. There is clear consensus for the WP:USSTATION guidelines and the proposed titles better follow policy in regards to WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE, WP:NATURAL, and WP:RECOGNIZABILITY.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
• Support per WP:USSTATION. Adding station to the article title provides natural disambiguation, without the need for parenthetical disambiguation (in most cases) per WP:NATURAL. Regarding capitalization, if "station" is not in the official name (and I do not think it is), then it should be lowercase. If "Station" is in the official station name, then it should be capitalized. Also, I added the disambiguating term "(Maryland)" for Wheaton and Forest Glen, and "(WMATA)" for Rockville as per the IP's concerns above. --Scott Alter (talk) 02:52, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

• Support per nom with "Station" capitalized as the signs at the stations do. Would greatly prefer "Washington Metro" as a disambiguator to "WMATA" or "Virginia" which are far less helpful to readers seeking the correct article. (Yes, I know that other systems use the stations but their primary use is by Metro train and bus). —  AjaxSmack  03:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose the capitalized "Station" per the new USSTATION guidelines. See more comments at [Talk:Vienna_(WMATA_station)#Requested_move_23_December_2014]]. Dicklyon (talk) 05:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
• Support – Per WP:USSTATION. RGloucester — ☎ 18:49, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

• Support "station" (lower case). This is what Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations) (currently) says it should be and WMATA doesn't use "Station" in the names on their Web site. I think that "Station" isn't a part of the formal name, as it makes sense to say the names without it (as in "get off at Shady Grove"), that the names are really descriptive terms saying where they're at (as in "the station at Shady Grove") and that the stations aren't unique entities themselves but instead pieces of the overall rail system and of the neighborhoods they serve (see proper name).

Lastly, this same capitalization discussion is occurring on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations). Jason McHuff (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress

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