Talk:List of works by William Shakespeare
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On 7 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Shakespeare bibliography to List of works by William Shakespeare. The result of the discussion was moved. |
synopses, etc.
editHello, with the current format, do you feel that brief plot synopses would still be appropriate? Another question: do you think that each play could have an indication whether it is considered a comedy, tragedy, or history? Thanks, Kyoko 07:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if plot summaries are necessary considering the articles provide that - however they could be added , by adding a second row to each title and having it span several rows above (see below). I'm also planning on adding tragedy/comedy/history below the titles of the works in the next big edit. -- Editor at Large • talk 08:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Example format:
Shakespeare's plays | ||||
Title | Year written | First publications | Performances | Authorship notes |
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The Comedy of Errors
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1592 - 1594 | First published in the First Folio | The first recorded performance was by "a company of base and common fellows," mentioned in the Gesta Grayorum ("The Deeds of Gray") as having occurred in Gray's Inn Hall on Dec. 28, 1594. The second also took place on "Innocents' Day" but ten years later - in 1604, at Court.[II] | sole authorship |
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- Oh, so that‘s what the play is about! I've never read it, nor seen it! Seriously, I was only thinking of a brief description, perhaps only one or two lines, such as "King Lear: an aged king faces troubles when he tries to divide his inheritance between his daughters." I don't know if having such descriptions is absolutely necessary, but they would help fill out the list, and perhaps further distinguish this list from the main articles. --Kyoko 21:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Haha. I like the layout idea shown above, as well. I think synopses would be excellent in the format you have proposed (except maybe in English) :) Wrad 21:25, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well yes, lorem ipsum can't be used for every synopsis. Someone would be bound to notice, eventually. --Kyoko 21:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm actually partial to Cicero's first Catiline Oration as placeholder text :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well yes, lorem ipsum can't be used for every synopsis. Someone would be bound to notice, eventually. --Kyoko 21:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Original title
editCould room be made for the titles under which the plays were originally published? Very few match the modern ones exactly, eg.
Title | Year written | First publications | Performances | Authorship notes |
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Antony and Cleopatra (The Tragedie of Anthonie, and Cleopatra) | 1601 - 1608 | First published in the First Folio | Believed to have been between 1606 and 1608. | |
Summary | In a setting soon after Julius Caesar, Marc Antony is in love with Cleopatra, an Egyptian queen. What used to be a friendship between Emperor Octavius and Antony develops into a hatred as Antony rejects the Emperor's sister, his wife, in favor of Cleopatra. Antony attempts to take the throne from Octavius and fails, while Cleopatra commits suicide. |
move categories (and pages) within Category:William Shakespeare plays to Category:Works by William Shakespeare
editCould the categories within Category:William Shakespeare plays be moved to its parent, Category:Works by William Shakespeare? Which otherwise contains only one category, Category:Poetry by William Shakespeare. This would flatten the taxonomy without creating confusion or lose significant information. — Robert Greer (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Sourcing early performances of Titus Andronicus
editI have a good paragraph of information from one of my sources. I've paraphrased and cited the text, but seeing as the wording is pretty similar due to the fact that this is factual information, I'm not sure whether or not it would be better off in a block quotation. Any thoughts? Thanks, Iamthecheese44 (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Romeo and Juliet
editwilliam Shakespeare's 171.76.213.163 (talk) 10:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 7 November 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. consensus in favor of List of works by William Shakespeare. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost (talk) 12:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Shakespeare bibliography → William Shakespeare bibliography – Per WP:PRECISE, not WP:MONONYM. Unlike other writers with first names, including J. R. R. Tolkien bibliography, C. S. Lewis bibliography, and Edgar Allan Poe bibliography. Absolutiva (talk) 03:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, for the same reason. AndyJones (talk) 13:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support even though William is primary for Shakespeare we normally don't omit given names. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Would List of works by William Shakespeare be less ambiguous (and therefore more WP:PRECISE), because a title with "bibliography" could suggest a bibliography of books about Shakespeare? Category:Bibliographies of British writers has a mix of naming conventions. Ham II (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I must admit I also pondered on that list. It's not clear why they vary like that. Is the eventual aim to make everything consistent? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Interestingly, even the 38 bibliographies which are featured lists don't have a single consistent naming convention. Ham II (talk) 06:24, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is surprising and somewhat disappointing. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Interestingly, even the 38 bibliographies which are featured lists don't have a single consistent naming convention. Ham II (talk) 06:24, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I must admit I also pondered on that list. It's not clear why they vary like that. Is the eventual aim to make everything consistent? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support either as proposed or as List of... but for some reason I thought there was a trend towards moving away from "List of..." some time ago. TiggerJay (talk) 01:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Amend my support above to List of works by William Shakespeare per the discussion. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise, would support List of works by William Shakespeare, but happy with some kind of move to consistency. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Support per nom.Move to List of works by William Shakespeare. Theparties (talk) 00:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)- Move to List of works by William Shakespeare, per my earlier comment about that being a still more WP:PRECISE title. Ham II (talk) 17:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)