Talk:Shanghai/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ironholds (talk) 15:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

you are a poor reviewer who only looks at what is referenced and what is not. maybe you do not care so much for the city, am I correct? ---何献龙4993 (talk) 18:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll look at the other things when you've fixed the big problems. You're rather like a captain complaining about the state of the canteen while heading towards an iceberg - deal with the big things first. I strongly advise you to read WP:V and WP:RS. Ironholds (talk) 19:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I will admit that I am like the "captain complaining..." but reviewers not familiar with the article subject cannot be trusted as much as those reviewers more familiar. Just because this city is one of the foremost on the world stage does not mean... anyways, if you were reviewing an article on a lesser-known, but still crucial, city, and brought this sort of attitude... wow... ----何献龙4993 (talk) 20:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Please explain how not being totally familiar with Shanghai means I cannot comment on how awfully referenced it is. Ironholds (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

"big things". what is referenced or not is only one aspect, and of course you are taking little pieces of it one at a time. What really are "big things": what needs to be described of the city, what emphasis is placed on what, (list could go on) ---何献龙4993 (talk) 20:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Big problems. The emphasis and description are not big problems, so far. Covering everything is not one of Wikipedia's five pillars; verifiability is. This doesn't even constitute a fully valid article, let alone a GA. I'd describe that as a pretty big problem, wouldn't you? Ironholds (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

then "big things" is hardly a way to describe it. I recommend we call in a native Shanghainese editor to look at what this article is lacking, even though it is less of a problem. "covering everything": so? what if we left out all information on the subway? hmm? ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Ironholds asked me as an uninvolved but experienced reviewer to take a second look at this article, because you clearly weren't happy with his review. I have to say that Ironholds is completely right. While there are massive sections of unreferenced text, this article has not got a chance of passing GAC. Verifiability and references to reliable sources are essential in a good article, so yes, it's very much a "big thing" if the article is as badly sourced as this one. Calling in "a native Shanghainese editor" is not necessary- the whole point of a GA review is that it is by an uninvolved editor- one who can look at the article and judge it without prejudice. Looking at the article from the outside, without even reading it, it is clear that there are massive issues due to the lack of referencing. I advise you take another look at the good article criteria. J Milburn (talk) 22:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

If we call in a native of the city who does not love it there, there will be less prejudice, don't you think? I won't budge that WIAGA is WIAGA. I personally detest the way the Culture section was written and maybe that's where the native of the city (preferably 80-after) would come in handy. "big thing". he could have been more clearer about it then and then I and perhaps other readers would better understand him just from the first reply. Can we just not approach the gargantuan size of the New York article (200 references)? ---何献龙4993 (talk) 12:01, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

and why was this article nominated when the last rating was C-class? an entire waste of all of our time. Great, indeed phoenix-like (look at how much it has suffered), cities generally do not make great Wikipedia articles. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 12:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Cities can make excellent GAs and FAs. I know a couple of towns at FA. If you appreciate that the article is awfully low quality, why did you spend some time defending it? Regardless, unless someone can come up with a decent argument I'm going to fail it. Ironholds (talk) 12:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• • I meant to say "do not necessarily". I mainly disliked your frequent and sometimes ill-considerate usage of "all unreferenced", at times thus not much better than a bot. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 12:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    • So you wasted my time and J Milburn's time... because I applied WP:V, the cornerstone of Wikipedia? Ironholds (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• • • • what is the connection? what time is this? the days of your nations' economies are numbered. let's hope that you will not suffer at least one Eastern-style revolution, a false hope indeed. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 17:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
        • That is irrelevant, particularly given that you don't even know where we're from. I am now quickfailing this GAN so I can stop you wasting even more of my time on pointless procrastinatory pedantry. Ironholds (talk) 17:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• • • • besides I have already begun trimming down on the article (and reorganising, for that matter) while you sit here... [瞎他妈晃悠] ---何献龙4993 (talk) 17:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
        • Again, unrelated to the conversation thread and irrelevant. You're not fixing the problem, you're moving it around. Ironholds (talk) 17:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Etymology

• "Another reading, especially in Mandarin, also suggests the sense of "go onto the sea," which is consistent with the seaport status of the city. A more poetic name for Shanghai switches the order of the two characters, Hǎishàng (海上), and is often used for terms related to Shanghainese art and culture." - unreferenced.

• "One other commonly used nickname Shēn (申) is derived from the name of Chunshen Jun (春申君), a nobleman and locally revered hero of the Chu Kingdom in the 3rd century BC whose territory included the Shanghai area. Sports teams and newspapers in Shanghai often use the character Shēn (申) in their names. Shanghai is also commonly called Shēnchéng (申城, "City of Shēn"). The city has also had various nicknames in English, including "Paris of the East"." - unreferenced  Fixed  –Nav  ^{talk to me or sign my guestbook} 04:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

History

• Link "dike"
• Link "Yuan Dynasty"
• Link "Ming Dynasty"
• "n the whole Yangtze Delta region" - whole is extraneous
• "Secondly, Emperor Yongzheng in 1732 moved the customs office (hai guan) for Jiangsu province from the prefectural capital of Songjiang city to Shanghai, and gave Shanghai exclusive control over customs collections for the foreign trade of the whole of Jiangsu province" - "Secondly, in 1732 Emperor Yongzheng moved the customs office (hai guan) for Jiangsu province from the prefectural capital of Songjiang city to Shanghai, and gave Shanghai exclusive control over customs collections for Jiangsu Province's foreign trade"
• "The importance of Shanghai grew radically in the 19th century, as the city's strategic position at the mouth of the Yangtze River made it an ideal location for trade with the West. During the First Opium War (1839–1842), British forces temporarily held Shanghai. The war ended with the 1842 Treaty of Nanjing, opened the treaty ports, Shanghai included, for international trade. The Treaty of the Bogue signed in 1843, and the Sino-American Treaty of Wangsia signed in 1844 together allowed foreign nations to visit and trade on Chinese soil, the start of the foreign concessions." - unreferenced, and radically is an awful word.

are you a foreigner? all Chinese know Shanghai was utterly nothing before the traders flowed in. treaties are treaties. do you really need a reference? ---何献龙4993 (talk) 18:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

• "In 1860-1862, during a civil war Shanghai had been invaded two times." - "During the civil war from 1860-1862, Shanghai was twice invaded" - mind specifying which civil war?

• "The Sino-Japanese War concluded with the Treaty of Shimonoseki, which elevated Japan to become another foreign power in Shanghai. Japan built the first factories in Shanghai, which were soon copied by other foreign powers. Shanghai was then the most important financial center in the Far East." unreferenced
• "On 27 May 1949, the Communist People's Liberation Army took control of Shanghai, which was one of only three former Republic of China (ROC) municipalities not merged into neighbouring provinces over the next decade (the others being Beijing and Tianjin). Shanghai underwent a series of changes in the boundaries of its subdivisions, especially in the next decade. After 1949, most foreign firms moved their offices from Shanghai to Hong Kong, as part of an exodus of foreign investment due to the Communist victory.
• During the 1950s and 1960s, Shanghai became an industrial center and center for revolutionary leftism. Yet, even during the most tumultuous times of the Cultural Revolution, Shanghai was able to maintain high economic productivity and relative social stability. In most of the history of the People's Republic of China (PRC), Shanghai has been the largest contributor of tax revenue to the central government compared with other Chinese provinces and municipalities. This came at the cost of severely crippling Shanghai's infrastructure and capital development. Its importance to China's fiscal well-being also denied it economic liberalizations that were started in the far southern provinces such as Guangdong during the mid-1980s. At that time, Guangdong province paid nearly no taxes to the central government, and thus was perceived as fiscally expendable for experimental economic reforms. Shanghai was finally permitted to initiate economic reforms in 1991, starting the huge development still seen today and the birth of Lujiazui in Pudong." unreferenced

Geography

• "Shanghai sits on the Yangtze River Delta on China's eastern coast, and is roughly equidistant from Beijing and Hong Kong. The municipality as a whole consists of a peninsula between the Yangtze and Hangzhou Bay, China's third largest island Chongming, and a number of smaller islands. It is bordered on the north and west by Jiangsu Province, on the south by Zhejiang Province, and on the east by the East China Sea. The city proper is bisected by the Huangpu River, a tributary of the Yangtze. The historic center of the city, the Puxi area, is located on the western side of the Huangpu, while the newly developed Pudong, containing the central financial district Lujiazui, was developed on the eastern bank." - unreferenced

• "The city has many rivers, canals, streams and lakes and is known for its rich water resources as part of the Taihu drainage area." unreferenced

Can the map be improved? It contains no identifiers of any kind: scale, names of districts, geographic features like rivers. I was just in Shanghai, but I have no idea of what I am looking at when I view this map. This is my first Wikipedia comment, so I hope I am doing this correctly. The posting conventions are daunting for occasional commenters. Urbanist27 (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Politics

"The politics of Shanghai is structured in a dual party-government system like all other governing institutions in China. The Mayor of Shanghai is the highest ranking official in the People's Government of Shanghai." - unreferenced and far, far too short!

Expanded, with references. Zanhe (talk) 05:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Administrative divisions

• Completely unreferenced

: so? these are government statistics and figures. it's just like asking for references for just a list of districts of New York or Washington. I don't see any references for the districts in most other PRC cities, apart from the local government sources. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 18:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Then you're misunderstanding how referencing works. It is not "other stuff exists without references, so it's fine", it's "anything questionable or that could be questioned needs to be referenced. Ironholds (talk) 19:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

all we need is one or two government sources. this is almost entirely government information, too. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Then provide them. The fact that little effort is apparently needed does not change the fact that little effort has been put in. Ironholds (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

there is not a single figure. I was mistaken. a simple look at the map will do. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

And yet, how do we know the map is accurate? reference. it. Ironholds (talk) 11:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Economy

• Shanghai is often regarded as the center of finance and trade in mainland China. Modern development began with the economic reforms in 1992, a decade later than many of the Southern Chinese provinces, but since then Shanghai quickly overtook those provinces and maintained its role as the business center in mainland China. Shanghai also hosts the largest share market in mainland China." unreferenced.
• "As in many other areas in China, Shanghai is undergoing a building boom. In Shanghai the modern architecture is notable for its unique style, especially in the highest floors, with several top floor restaurants which resemble flying saucers. For a gallery of these unique architecture designs, see Shanghai (architecture images). The bulk of Shanghai buildings being constructed today are high-rise apartments of various height, color and design. There is now a strong focus by city planners to develop more "green areas" (public parks) among the apartment complexes in order to improve the quality of life for Shanghai's residents, in accordance to the "Better City - Better Life" theme of Shanghai's Expo 2010." - unreferenced
• "Industrial zones in Shanghai include Shanghai Hongqiao Economic and Technological Development Zone, Jinqiao Export Economic Processing Zone, Minhang Economic and Technological Development Zone, and Shanghai Caohejing High and New Technological Development Zone (see List of economic and technological development zones in Shanghai)." -unreferenced

Demographics

• Languages, Education and most of Religion = completely unreferenced.

I can speak on languages. "borrowed from English" is the only thing that needs reference. readers who want more information on 上海话 must go to that page. enough said. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 18:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Your personal opinion is irrelevant and not a reliable source. Ironholds (talk) 19:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

did I say it was? did I write that any of those sentences? I certainly did not. You are already starting to flash arrogance. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop making personal comments. "I can speak on languages" implies your personal opinion can verify the languages used. Ironholds (talk) 21:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

my intended meaning was that I can speak with more knowledge on Languages than the other two sections. sorry for any un-clarity. It is widespread knowledge that 普通话 and 上海话/吴语 are most spoken in the city.---何献龙4993 (talk) 22:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Again, widespread knowledge is not a reliable source. Ironholds (talk) 05:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

again, requiring a reference for things such as "the Earth is the third planet from the Sun" further discredits Wikipedia and discourages editors from continuing and wannabe participants from contributing. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

again, it's like saying that this simple fact needs a citation: New York has a local flavour of American English. (without saying anything further). ---何献龙4993 (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Common knowledge. Ironholds (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

such a fact as what the local variety is called (it's named after the city, for God's sake) doesn't go under "when to seek professional help". I will continue to be this painful until you budge over or third-party reviewer comes in. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 20:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

What the local languages are is something that everyone who could possibly read the article is expected to know, is it? Ironholds (talk) 20:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

what the name of the local dialect is could be easily derived by taking the city's name. that is all I am saying. users who want for more information ought to look at the pertaining article. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Which again, doesn't deal with the main problem; it's not referenced. "it sounds like the city name" does not make it accurate. Ironholds (talk) 21:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Transport

• "Shanghai has an extensive public transport system, largely based on buses, trolleybuses, taxis, and a rapidly expanding metro system. All of these public transport tools can be accessed using the Shanghai Public Transportation Card, which uses radio frequencies so the card does not have to physically touch the scanner." - unreferenced

• "Bus fares are usually ¥1, ¥1.5 or ¥2, sometimes higher, while Metro fares run from ¥3 to ¥10 depending on distance." unreferenced
• "Taxis in Shanghai are plentiful and government regulation has set taxi fares at an affordable rate for the average resident—¥12 for 3 km, ¥16 after 23:00, and 2.4RMB/km thereafter. Before the 1990s, bicycling was the most ubiquitous form of transport in Shanghai, but the city has since banned bicycles on many of the city's main roads to ease congestion. However, many streets have bicycle lanes and intersections are monitored by "Traffic Assistants" who help provide for safe crossing. Further, the city government has pledged to add 180 km of cycling lanes over the next few years. It is worth noting that a number of the main shopping and tourist streets, Nanjing Road and Huaihai Road do not allow bicycles." - unreferenced
• "In cooperation with the Shanghai municipality and the Shanghai Maglev Transportation Development Co. (SMT), German Transrapid constructed the first commercial high speed Maglev railway in the world in 2002, from Shanghai's Longyang Road subway station in Pudong to Pudong International Airport. Commercial operation started in 2003. The 30 km trip takes 7 minutes and 21 seconds and reaches a maximum speed of 431 km/h (267.8 mph). Normal operating speeds usually reach 431 km/h or 300 km/h in early morning or evening, but during a test run, the Maglev has been shown to reach a top speed of 501 km/h." - unreferenced.

• "Two railways intersect in Shanghai: Jinghu Railway (Beijing–Shanghai) Railway passing through Nanjing, and Huhang Railway (Shanghai–Hangzhou). Shanghai is served by two main railway stations, Shanghai Railway Station and Shanghai South Railway Station. Express service to Beijing through D-series trains is fairly convenient. High-speed railways to Beijing, Nanjing and Hangzhou are also in the works. The HSR to Nanjing will be opened by July 1, 2010, and the one to Hangzhou is due for operation in October 2010." - unreferenced

• "More than six national expressways (prefixed with "G") from Beijing and from the region around Shanghai connect to the city. Shanghai itself has six toll-free elevated expressways (skyways) in the urban core and 18 municipal expressways (prefixed with "A"). There are ambitious plans to build expressways connecting Shanghai's Chongming Island with the urban core. For a city of Shanghai's size, road traffic is still fairly smooth and convenient but getting more congested as the number of cars increases rapidly." - unreferenced

• "Hongqiao mainly serves domestic routes, with a few city-to-city flights to Tokyo's Haneda Airport and Seoul's city airport. Hongqiao airport is about 10 kilometers west of the downtown. One of the airport's advantages is it is much closer to the city center than Pudong airport." - unreferenced

• "Most taxi drivers speak limited or no English, and non-Chinese speakers are advised to have their destinations written down in Chinese." Unreferenced and superfluous. One can say that for any place in China - and possibly even Manhattan .... BsBsBs (talk) 17:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Architecture

• "Shanghai has a rich collection of buildings and structures of various architectural styles. The Bund, located by the bank of the Huangpu River, contains a rich collection of early 20th century architecture, ranging in style from neoclassical HSBC Building to the art deco Sassoon House. A number of areas in the former foreign concessions are also well preserved, most notably the French Concession. Shanghai has one of the worlds largest number of Art Deco buildings as a result of the construction boom during the 1920s and 30s. One of the most famous architects working in Shanghai was László Hudec, a Hungarian architect who lived in the city between 1918-1947. Some of his most notable Art Deco buildings include the Park Hotel and the Grand Theater. Other prominent architects who contributed to the Art Deco style are Parker & Palmer who designed the Peace Hotel, Metropole Hotel and the Broadway Mansions, and Austrian architect GH Gonda who designed the Capital Theatre." - unreferenced
• "Despite rampant redevelopment, the old city still retains some buildings of a traditional style, such as the Yuyuan Garden, an elaborate traditional garden in the Jiangnan style." - unreferenced
• "In recent years, a large number of architecturally distinctive, even eccentric, skyscrapers have sprung up throughout Shanghai. Notable examples of contemporary architecture include the Shanghai Museum, Shanghai Grand Theatre in the People's Square precinct and Shanghai Oriental Arts Center." - unreferenced
• "One uniquely Shanghainese cultural element is the shikumen (石库门) residences, which are two or three-story townhouses, with the front yard protected by a high brick wall. Each residence is connected and arranged in straight alleys, known as a lòngtang (弄堂), pronounced longdang in the Shanghai dialect. The entrance to each alley is usually surmounted by a stylistic stone arch. The whole resembles terrace houses or townhouses commonly seen in Anglo-American countries, but distinguished by the tall, heavy brick wall in front of each house. The name "shikumen" literally means "stone storage door", referring to the strong gateway to each house." - unreferenced
• "The shikumen is a cultural blend of elements found in Western architecture with traditional Lower Yangtze (Jiangnan) Chinese architecture and social behavior. All traditional Chinese dwellings had a courtyard, and the shikumen was no exception. Yet, to compromise with its urban nature, it was much smaller and provided an "interior haven" to the commotions in the streets, allowing for raindrops to fall and vegetation to grow freely within a residence. The courtyard also allowed sunlight and adequate ventilation into the rooms." - unreferenced
• "The city also has some beautiful examples of Soviet neoclassical architecture. These buildings were mostly erected during the period from the founding of the People's Republic in 1949 until the Sino-Soviet Split in the late 1960s. During this decade, large numbers of Soviet experts poured into China to aid the country in the construction of a communist state, some of them were architects. Examples of Soviet neoclassical architecture in Shanghai include what is today the Shanghai International Exhibition Center. Beijing, the nation's capital, displays an even greater array of this particular type of architecture." - unreferenced

there are no statistics or bold claims here. no reference needed. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 18:36, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Rich. Beautiful. Rampant. Cultural blend. Adequate. The use of quotes. All things which need citations. Ironholds (talk) 19:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

well I have already found one error: traditional Lower Yangtze. ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

there is only one set of quotes, and that has to deal with "shikumen". Are you telling me a literal, not unusual, translation needs citation? ---何献龙4993 (talk) 21:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

All translations need citations. Have you read WP:RS? Ironholds (talk) 11:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

that is a falsehood. So technically all of the native names need citations. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 04:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Culture

• "Because of Shanghai's status as the cultural and economic center of East Asia for the first half of the twentieth century, it is popularly seen as the birthplace of everything considered modern in China. It was in Shanghai, for example, that the first motor car was driven and the first train tracks and modern sewers were laid. It was also the intellectual battleground between socialist writers who concentrated on critical realism, which was pioneered by Lu Xun (zh:鲁迅), Mao Dun (zh:茅盾), Nien Cheng and famous French novel the Man's Fate, and the more "bourgeois", more romantic and aesthetically inclined writers, such as Shi Zhecun (zh:施蛰存), Shao Xunmei (邵洵美), Ye Lingfeng (葉靈鳳) and Eileen Chang (zh:张爱玲)." - unreferenced
• "Besides literature, Shanghai was also the birthplace of Chinese cinema and theater. China’s first short film, The Difficult Couple (難夫難妻, Nanfu Nanqi, 1913), and the country’s first fictional feature film, An Orphan Rescues His Grandfather (孤兒救祖記, Gu'er jiu zuji, 1923) were both produced in Shanghai. These two films were very influential, and established Shanghai as the center of Chinese film-making. Shanghai’s film industry went on to blossom during the early Thirties, generating Marilyn Monroe-like stars such as Zhou Xuan. Another film star, Jiang Qing, went on to become Madame Mao Zedong. The talent and passion of Shanghainese filmmakers following World War II and the Communist revolution in China contributed enormously to the development of the Hong Kong film industry. Many aspects of Shanghainese popular culture ("Shanghainese Pops") were transferred to Hong Kong by the numerous Shanghainese emigrants and refugees after the Communist Revolution. The movie In the Mood for Love, which was directed by Wong Kar-wai (a native Shanghainese himself), depicts one slice of the displaced Shanghainese community in Hong Kong and the nostalgia for that era, featuring 1940s music by Zhou Xuan." - unreferenced
• "Shanghai boasts several museums of regional and national importance. The Shanghai Museum of art and history has one of the best collections of Chinese historical artifacts in the world, including important archaeological finds since 1949. The Shanghai Art Museum, located near People's Square, is a major art museum holding both permanent and temporary exhibitions. The Shanghai Natural History Museum is a large scale natural history museum. In addition, there is a variety of smaller, specialist museums, some housed in important historical sites such as the site of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea and the site of the First National Congress of the Communist Party of China." - unreferenced
• "The Shanghai School (海上画派, Haishang Huapai, which is shortened to 海派, Haipai) is a very important Chinese school of traditional arts during the Qing Dynasty and the whole of the twentieth century. Under efforts of masters from this school, traditional Chinese art reached another climax and continued to the present in forms of the "Chinese painting" (中国画) or guohua (国画) for short. The Shanghai School challenged and broke the literati tradition of Chinese art, while also paying technical homage to the ancient masters and improving on existing traditional techniques. Members of this school were themselves educated literati who had come to question their very status and the purpose of art, and had anticipated the impending modernization of Chinese society. In an era of rapid social change, works from the Shanghai School were widely innovative and diverse, and often contained thoughtful yet subtle social commentary. The most well-known figures from this school are Qi Baishi (齊白石), Ren Xiong (任熊), Ren Yi (任伯年), Zhao Zhiqian (赵之谦), Wu Changshuo (吴昌硕), Sha Menghai (沙孟海, calligraphist), Pan Tianshou (潘天寿), Fu Baoshi (傅抱石) and Wang Zhen (Wang Yiting) (王震). In literature, the term was used in the 1930s by some May Fourth Movement intellectuals, notably Zhou Zuoren and Shen Congwen, as a derogatory label for the literature produced in Shanghai at the time. They argued that so-called Shanghai School literature was merely commercial and therefore did not advance social progress. This became known as the Jingpai (Beijing School) versus Haipai (Shanghai School) debate." - unreferenced
• "Songjiang School (淞江派) is a small painting school during the Ming Dynasty. It is commonly considered as a further development of the Wu School, or Wumen School (吴门画派), in the then cultural center of the region, Suzhou. Huating School (华亭派) was another important art school during the middle to late Ming Dynasty. Its main achievements were in traditional Chinese painting, calligraphy and poetry, and especially famous for its Renwen painting (人文画). Dong Qichang (董其昌) is one of the masters from this school." - unreferenced
• "Shanghai's parks offer some reprieve from the urban jungle. Due to the scarcity of play space for children, nearly all parks have a children's section. Zhongshan Gongyuan in Downtown Shanghai is famous for its monument of Chopin, the tallest statue dedicated to the composer in the world. Built in 1914 as Jessfield Park, it once contained the campus of St. John's University, Shanghai's first international college; today, it is known for its extensive rose and peony gardens, a large children's play area, and as the location of an important transfer station on the city's metro system. One of the newest is in the Xujiahui District, Xujiahui Gongyuan, built in 1999 on the former grounds of the Great Chinese Rubber Works Factory and the EMI Recording Studio (today's glamorous La Villa Rouge restaurant), with entrances at Zhaojiabang Lu and in the west at the intersection of Hengshang Lu and Yuqin Lu. The park has a man-made lake with a sky bridge running across the park, and offers a pleasant respite for Xujiahui shoppers." - unreferenced
• "Other Shanghainese cultural artifacts include the cheongsam (Shanghainese: zansae), a modernization of the traditional Chinese/Manchurian qipao (Chinese: 旗袍; fitting. This contrasts sharply with the traditional qipao which was designed to conceal the figure and be worn regardless of age. The cheongsam went along well with the western overcoat and the scarf, and portrayed a unique East Asian modernity, epitomizing the Shanghainese population in general. As Western fashions changed, the basic cheongsam design changed, too, introducing high-necked sleeveless dresses, bell-like sleeves and, the black lace frothing at the hem of a ball gown. By the 1940s, cheongsams came in transparent black, beaded bodices, matching capes and even velvet. And later, checked fabrics became also quite common. The 1949 Communist Revolution ended the cheongsam and other fashions in Shanghai. However, the Shanghainese styles have seen a recent revival as stylish party dresses. The fashion industry has been rapidly revitalizing in the past decade, there is on average one fashion show per day in Shanghai today. Like Shanghai's architecture, local fashion designers strive to create a fusion of western and traditional designs, often with innovative if uncontroversial results." - unreferenced
• "Shanghai has hosted a number of world events, including the 2007 Summer Special Olympics and a Live Earth concert.[47] The Shanghai International Film Festival is annually held in the city. Shanghai is also home to a number of professional sports teams, including Shanghai Shenhua of the Chinese Super League, the Shanghai Sharks of the Chinese Basketball Association, China Dragon of Asia League Ice Hockey and the Shanghai Golden Eagles of the China Baseball League. The city has also hosted the Formula One Chinese Grand Prix at the Shanghai International Circuit every year since 2004. The city is the host of the Expo 2010 World's Fair between May 1 and October 2010." - unreferenced

International relations

• Completely unreferenced.

Population

"Shanghai is the largest city by population in the People's Republic of China" - patent nonsense, contradicted by the official 2010 census and an entry in the Demographics section: "Based on population of total administrative area, Shanghai is the second largest of the four direct-controlled municipalities of the People's Republic of China, behind Chongqing, but is generally considered the largest city in China because Chongqing's urban population is much smaller." BsBsBs (talk) 17:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)