Talk:Shanghai Tunnel Bar/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kavyansh.Singh (talk · contribs) 16:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Nominator: Another Believer (talk · contribs) at 18:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

Prose

• in Portland, Oregon's Old Town Chinatown neighborhood, in the United States. → "in the Old Town Chinatown neighborhood, Portland, Oregon."
  • For many of my Good article reviews for restaurants, I've been asked to include national context (United States). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Every information present in the lead should be there in the prose as well. United States is never repeated again in the prose. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

      Ok!  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• as BLTs — pipe 's' out of the link
  • I'm not sure what you mean. Linking is correct as far as I can tell ([[BLT]]s). Can you clarify? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Oh, its fine. I was reading in visual edit mode&nbsp... – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

      Ok, thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• has been described as a "gruff but lovable" and "dank, brick-lined basement" — described by whom?
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• sorts of criminal enterprise". — the full-stop should be inside the quotes. It is there in the original quotes as well.
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• The bar had at least five pinball machines, as of 2017 — its been 5 years in 2017. Any updates here?
  • Nope! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Then writing it as "as of 20212022" would be more accurate, what do you think? – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

      But the source was published in 2017. I'd only update if there were a more recent source confirming the number of pinball machines. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• gave the bar a score of seven — seven out of ten? out of hundred? specify
  • I've removed. The Oregonian article does not specific scale. I'm sure the scale exists somewhere but not easy to find. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• for eating -- it's — perhaps, those two dashes (--) should be an em-dash (—)
  • Agree.  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• $2 dollar — we have dollar symbol and well as 'dollar' written.
  • This is a direct quote. Should we leave alone or adjust so not confusing to Wikipedia readers? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Well, removing the word 'dollar' does not change any meaning/view-point of the quote. MOS:CONFORM says that "A quotation is not a facsimile and, in most cases, it is not a requirement that the original formatting be preserved." I know that MOS is particularly for formatting punctuation, but in this case, I think there is no harm in adjusting. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

       Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• The Multnomah county has never been mentioned in the article. Is it needed in the info-box?
  • This is a basic template parameter which I've used on ~30 other Good articles for PDX restaurants, so I'd leave for consistency. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• Is there anything else to say about the article.

Images

Just an FYI, I plan to take photographs of the bar's exterior (and hopefully interior) as soon as possible, since I live in Portland. I've promoted ~30 Portland restaurant articles to Good status and so far an article being unillustrated has not prevented Good article promotion. Hope you understand! Thanks for reviewing. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:27, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I know. The image section is here just because it is part of my standard GA review format (see 1, 2)

• File:Shanghai Tunnel Bar logo.jpeg needs stronger WP:NFCC. It currently has "Author or copyright owner" empty.
  • I uploaded this image the same way I have all other restaurant logos. I've added 'Shanghai Tunnel Bar' as the author if that's helpful. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

References

• Suggesting to hyphenate ISBNs, using this tool.
  • Interesting. Was not familiar with this tool.  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
• Suggesting to be consistent with linking the newspaper/work in references. Willamette Week is linked in Ref#3, but not in Ref#4. WP:OL for linking newspapers/websites do not apply in citations (per MOS:REFLINK)

Thats it. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Fine, passing! Congrats! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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