Talk:Sharpe (novel series)

split fictional universe article into separate page

I think the fictional universe, like the booklist, etc, should be split into a separate article from the fictional character. 76.66.193.69 (talk) 11:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps a good approach may be to partially merge this article with Sharpe (TV series), renaming that article to Sharpe (series) and leaving this article to deal entirely with the character. At the moment, this article acts as the main page for the books, which probably isn't the best course of action. Dealing with both the novels and the television series in the same place would help streamline it somewhat and make it more accessible and taking the place as a central article for all things Sharpe related. -- Sabre (talk) 14:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

No don't like this the articles are too large to merge in this way. We should be going the other way with these. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally I would create a Sharpe (franchise) article that overviews the books, TV series, and related stuff (various books about the books, etc). This would just be a fictional character article, and the book series (Sharpe (novel series)) and TV series would receive/keep separate articles. 76.66.193.69 (talk) 07:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I certainly like the last idea, although I am no fan of the "franchise" tag. The novel series is a significant subject in its own right and not the same thing as the TV series. The differences are too vast to mention here and should be part of the TV article to review the liberties taken in the adaptations. This particular version of the proposal doesn't speak to the actual "character" article. Which I think could well stand alone. The would leave Sharpe (novel series), Sharpe (TV series) (which would contain the associated spin of or "francise" material) and then Richard Sharpe (fictional character). Maybe as dab page as well. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

• Split declined. A split would be inappropriate at the moment as the article first need cleaning up and sourcing. The points about the focus of the article are well made, and following on those observations I have renamed the article Sharpe (novel series) from Richard Sharpe (character)), as it is appropriate to first have an article on the novel series. As part of the development of the article, information should now be gathered on the writing of the novels, the themes, the critical reception, sales figures, etc. Detail on the character can be collected into a more manageable overview, reducing any excessive detail. Once the article has been cleaned up and appropriately sourced the question can then be asked should there be a standalone article on the character. Given that the character is the central part of the novels, and that the character details are mainly plot, I'm not yet convinced that a standalone article is fully justified, though once reliable sources have been consulted and referenced it may well emerge that such an article is justified. SilkTork *^YES! 17:09, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Money money money

Having not read them all, did Cornwell ever explain how Sharpe paid the expenses of his higher rank? This page puts the amount for a lieutenancy at £500 a year, on a salary of only £164 5s... Bernard La Carré ^{circus ring} 06:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

when Sharpe was in India he "found" a considerble fortune on the death of Sultan Tipoo. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 09:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Mobile Version of this Site: Table Severely Mangled

Reading this article on the Opera mini-browser shows only the first row of the table under "Novels and short stories". I wish I knew how to fix it.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.175.128.1 (talk) 21:32, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

need for outside references in all of the Sharpe articles

References to articles by others, reviews of the novels, reviews of the television series, reviews of Bernard Cornwell as a writer, are missing from every article I read on Wikipedia about this author and all his works. Some of the articles about the novels do not have complete summaries, nor list of the characters, either. A few have a concise comparison between the novel and the television show with the same title. Hardly any are flagged for those specific omissions. I do not know how to insert those flags. Many articles about novels that I have edited, are full of those flags, like needs inline citations, and I then tried to find outside reviews and other sources to add to the article. Though I have read nearly all of the Sharpe series novels, but none of the short stories, I am not up to taking on this topic. I did minor changes to the articles about the novels. Any chance of either the flags, or better yet, the outside sources, on this wholly in-universe series of articles on some really good books of historical fiction? --Prairieplant (talk) 02:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Chosen Men

Right so I had to change the status and the books they're in having read the books, some internet troll keeps changing the chosen men statuses, and also being an idiot as well having never being respectful to soldiers, fates, he added characters whom where not in it, like Rifleman Nicholas Hine, Finn, Tobias Moore, Skillicorn, Bradshaw, they're not novel characters, Moore, Skillicorn, and Bradshaw are just TV series characters, if this is about the novels we must look out for that internet troll who claims their status I read the Sharpe novels hence I had to put KIA templates on the ones killed off in the books, as I read the books 11 die, and also two missing in action, and 14 are alive in the books of his 95th Rifleman, so we need to keep it like this and I had to change the way the characters appeared in the books I read the whole books, Trooper201 (talk) 09:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Lists of Riflemen and South Essex personnel

I am not convinced these lists really belong in a Wikipedia article, but leaving that aside I am concerned a) that there are no references for these and b) there are errors concerning their fates. For instance Peter D'Alembord was a Major by Waterloo (he is promoted during the novel Sharpe's Waterloo), Smith and Carline died at Quatre Bras, not Waterloo, and Jack Bullen was captured by the French rather than killed. Dunarc (talk) 20:49, 8 August 2017 (UTC) Amended by Dunarc (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

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Table of novels and short stories - Sharpe's Assassin

I note that Sharpe's Assassin is in place as number 25 in the list. It will be the 25th story (and 22nd Sharpe novel) to be published, but this list orders the tales in chronological order (eg Sharpe's Eagle is 08 rather than 01 despite being the first Sharpe novel to be published). While Sharpe's Assassin is yet to be published, the advanced publicity would seem to suggest that it is set between Sharpe's Waterloo and Sharpe's Devil. Indeed an extract made available online would seem to suggest it follows on straight from Sharpe's Waterloo. I think until it is published and we know definitively where it fits in it is fine to have it at the end of the list, but I would not number it, as it seems very unlikely that it will be set after Sharpe's Devil. Dunarc (talk) 20:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Chosen man rank

This article, and several other Sharpe pages, make the claim that "chosen man" in the TV series is a rank. The chosen man page used to say this, but now redirects to Lance corporal#United Kingdom implying that it an equivalent rank. That seems highly unlikely to me given that the characters were not all the same rank – Harper, for instance, was a sergeant. This article, and several other Sharpe pages, make the claim that "chosen man" in the TV series is a rank. The chosen man page used to say this, but now redirects to Lance corporal#United Kingdom implying that it an equivalent rank. That seems highly unlikely to me given that the characters were not all the same rank – Harper, for instance, was a sergeant. SpinningSpark 19:00, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I've now found sources that equate "chosen man" with the rank of lance corporal, but I'm not convinced that the term "chosen men" or "chosen man" was used by Cornwell to refer to the whole body of Sharpe's command with that meaning. In fact, the only place I can find the term used by Cornwell at all is in Sharpe's Rifles when Murray mentions he tried to make Harper a "Chosen Man" but he turned it down. Cornwell says the term is equivalent to corporal, not lance corporal. Now it's true that Sharpe repeatedly calls his riflemen "chosen men" in the TV series, but the TV series is not the novel series, and it seems to me that Sharpe is using the term in an entirely different sense here. It seems to mean in the TV series men that have been specially chosen for their marksmanship and ability to operate independently. That has nothing to do with the formal rank of the men. SpinningSpark 16:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)