Talk:Sheffield Shield

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This page is erroniously linked-to from the article on Sheffield Wednesday FC (an english Soccer team) on the Wikipedia Main page I don't know how to fix this but I bet it's easy done. This is fixed now. Thanks! When did the states adopt their nicknames? Here in England we generally ignore them and stick with the plain state names, so I'm not sure when the change was made; I can't quite see "Southern Redbacks" playing in the 1890s! Loganberry (Talk) 23:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Winners table

Would it be a good thing to make the table like this:

SEASON	WINNER
1989-90	New South Wales
1990-91	Victoria
1991-92	Western Australia
1992-93	New South Wales
1993-94	New South Wales
1994-95	Queensland
1995-96	South Australia
1996-97	Queensland
1997-98	Western Australia
1998-99	Western Australia
1999-00	Queensland
2000-01	Queensland
2001-02	Queensland
2002-03	New South Wales
2003-04	Victoria
2004-05	New South Wales

Maybe the colours needed to be adjusted a bit. JPD 10:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks good. why not? It'd also be good to show the runner up team in the table. -- Ian ≡ talk 10:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Yep, looks fine to me. I'd suggest using the one-day colours, but if those are the one-day colours then I see no problem. Runners-up might be a bit hard to dig up, though. Sam Vimes 10:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

You'd have to go through either cricketarchive or Cricinfo (the latter would probably be marginally better). Having done that for List of Australian intercolonial cricket matches recently, I'm not putting my hand up! -- Ian ≡ talk 13:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

It would be good (and relatively straighforward) to list runners-up for at least the seasons that had finals. I'll get around to that at some point, if no-one else does first. The one-day uniforms change from year to year, but (thankfully) mainly use the traditional colours. I firstly tried to use the normal colours like this:

New South Wales

Victoria

Western Australia

Queensland

South Australia

Tasmania

but they're not so easy to read, so I softened Vic and Qld. It might be easier on the eyes to soften all of them a bit:

New South Wales

Victoria

Western Australia

Queensland

South Australia

Tasmania

What do you think? JPD (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

or...

New South Wales

Victoria

Western Australia

Queensland

South Australia

Tasmania

Ian ≡ talk 00:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I like Ian's version - the colours are good (although I'd like to revise my original NSW colour to 66CCFF), and I can read it, but it is a bit garish, which some people can't handle. I notice that similar tables using political party colours tend to use even softer colours. I had a quick look for any similar sporting tables, but the closest I could find was at Premier League, which has the table without colour and a timeline next to it. I have mixed feelings about that approach. JPD (talk) 18:51, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I have put a version of the table, using the colour scheme I currently like best at User:JPD/Pura Cup. It includes the runners-up since 1982/3, when the Sheffield Shield first had a final to determine the winner. Please comment! JPD (talk) 17:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

It is a wee bit garish, especially with the two colours next to each other. Hm. *ponders* Sam Vimes 17:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

That was my feeling. I've added an even softer version to that page, but I'm still not sure that having the colour of the runner up is ever going to be a good idea. JPD (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I like the second (softer) one as you've got it, and with the runner up coloured. If you're only going to have the winner listed, you may be better using Wiki EasyTimelines (see [1] for examples), like in Premier League. This on the other hand gives another layer of info. Good work. -- Ian ≡ talk 01:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

As I alluded earlier, I'm not sure I like the layout at Premier League, as it seems a bit redundant. On the other hand, the table including the runner's up is growing on me. I'll go ahead and add the second version to the page. I can soften the colours even more, if anyone thinks that's needed. Do you think we should bother digging up runners up for years with no finals, or should only losing finallists be noted as runners-up? JPD (talk) 10:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm adding all positions for all years. Does anyone know what tie-breaker method was used in the days before quotients and first innings points? eg 1892/93 Victoria won, but did NSW or SA come second?

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Name change

What would be the reaction if I suggested renaming this article to Sheffield Shield? At the moment, I think it's a good idea. If the naming sponsor was ever to change, I think it would be an excellent idea. (Incidentally I posted the same discussion on Ford Ranger One Day Cup - the reasoning for that article is better because it has had about 8 different names, but it doesn't have a obvious "neutral name".) -- Chuq (talk) 09:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually came here to post the same thing if you can believe that. The NRL and AFL articles aren't called the Telstra/Toyota Premiership either, I think this should be renamed to the Sheffield Shield fwiw. Bongomanrae (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Well todays announcement solved this problem for us :) -- Chuq (talk) 07:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Batting averages in the records section

The qualification of 20 innings is completely unrealistic in the modern competition, since the teams only play ten games in the normal season. StAnselm (talk) 10:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I was reading it as a season's average. My mistake. StAnselm (talk) 08:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Darren Lehmann's runs record

In the intro section, in the box to the right, the most runs record is incorrect. It reads 12971 but should be 13635. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Australis Lupus (talk • contribs) 21:55, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Is there now, or has there ever been, an actual metal shield?

This article doesn't discuss if an actual shield exists now or has ever existed. The Stanley Cup articles says "There are actually three Stanley Cups:..." and then goes on to describe them. There should be a similar discussion in this article. Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 10:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, there is a real shield. It's wood and metal. It's disappointing that we don't have picture of it. A Google image search will help you find it. With luck, you can see it here. HiLo48 (talk) 10:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)