Talk:Shergar/Archive 1

Archive 1

Disappeared

"He was the fourth famous race horse in history to be stolen. The others were Corrida who disappeared in France without a trace in 1944, and eventually recovered alive was Carnauba in Italy in 1975 and Fanfreluche in 1977 in the United States." That's eh... three horses, not four? -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 17:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Er... yeah, that's eh...the first THREE making Shergar the FOURTH Devious Viper 21:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Looking over again, I see that I missed Carnauba when I was reading the first time. -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 21:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Insight?

The article reads:

His remains have never been found despite the help of star witnesses such as English show jumping horse "Basil" who gave key insights into the mind of Shergar and his kidnappers.

A horse gave key insights into the mind of Shergar and his kidnappers? Either this is a sneaky bit of vandalism, I am misinterpreting the sentence, or it is a mistake. Anyone care to guess and possibly correct it to what it is meant to say? Because I have no idea... Cheers, Rothery 05:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Changed "kidnap"

I believe that the many instances of "kidnap" and its variants in this article were incorrect.
People are "kidnapped". Chattel property such as horses is "stolen".
I understand that many of the sources for the article used the term "kidnap". I believe that this is incorrect, and we should not follow this usage.
(As the old saw has it, if someone wants to call a dog's tail a leg, this doesn't mean that dogs have five legs.)
---- Writtenonsand (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

The 35 foals

The article says Shergar sired 35 foals. What became of them and how many descendants does Shergar have today?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Shergar.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

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Body found?

Appears that Shergar's body has now been located, if this news tidbit checks out: http://cs.thehorse.com/blogs/horse-news-weird/archive/2013/11/26/three-tips-if-it-aint-yours.aspx Montanabw^(talk) 19:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Nope. Came from a hoax news site and pic is of Sheridan's cavalry horse. Froggerlaura ^ribbit 04:04, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

The Horse will have egg on its face for that one! Montanabw^(talk) 21:22, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Earnings

I see Shergar earned his owners nearly $700,000. As this was 25 years ago, is there any merit in perhaps also giving the equivalent figure in 'today's money?'

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£100 notes

The page currently states: "Many of the demands were physically impossible: the ransom demand included £100 notes, which did not exist."

However, this is not strictly correct. While the Bank of England does not and did not at the time issue Sterling £100 notes, all four note issuing banks in Northern Ireland did (and two still do). Similarly, there was a £100 note of the Irish Pound in circulation at the time. The kidnappers may well have made "impossible" demands, but asking for £100 notes would not have been one of them. I am therefore deleting the text. Nick Cooper (talk) 14:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I’ve put it back in. NI notes are not legal tender, and the currency would have been extremely difficult (probably impossible) to obtain in quantity. We go with the source here. - SchroCat (talk) 14:27, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Missing the point, somewhat. Legal tender has a very limited and specific meaning. Bank-issued notes are legal currency, and £100 notes certainly existed at the time (and indeed continue to), so we can't say they "did not exist." We can't slavishly to sources that are demonstrably factually incorrect. Nick Cooper (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay in getting back to you: I was travelling and have only just got home and back to the sources. One of those cited—Baerlein—states "£100 sterling notes". I've clarified within the text based on this source. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring

Jalapeño, can you stop edit warring and DISCUSS here please. - SchroCat (talk) 10:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)