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Latest comment: 5 days ago5 comments2 people in discussion
Deletion discussion outlined a few problems on this page: probable conflict of interest (page created by single-purpose account), borderline notability, advertisement style (use of primary links to personal websites). Need to update page to fix these issues. Georgebrown5566 (talk) 22:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Georgebrown5566: I don't fully understand all the templates you added. Specifically:
WP:AUTO - What are you basing this on? All I see is your speculation in the delete discussion based on similarities between "Shirley" and "surely".
WP:PROF - Given that the delete discussion was to keep, I would asset this is not true. I removed this template.
WP:NPOV - What is this based on? Is the claim similar to the one being made for WP:AUTO?
Sure, this is the reasoning, but tell me if there are better templates for this:
WP:AUTO: According to the Template:Autobiography, a strong similarity between usernames is suspicious. But it is also a single-purpose account, and it intervened in the discussion and did not answer when asked if there was a WP:COI. Also, I feel the article is written as a CV, including less relevant details such as the undergraduate research with Kam-Biu Luk or the two works with Martin White as a senior and other details such as the awards that an independent writer would hardly know or care about.
WP:PROF: true, it was kept, but it was a somehow weak keep, many agreed that there was a problem in the relevance of the achievements (and also acknowledged the problems in following comments). But ok, if the result of the discussion is enough to remove the suspicion, let's remove it.
WP:NPOV: this was more a style issue (it's written like a WP:RESUME?), all references except #4 and #6 can be traced back to the personal pages or affiliations (Simons - Flatiron / CMU) or publications on arXiv, the awards are not supported by references (there's even an invalid Twitter link, I was not sure if it should be removed or tagged as a missing reference). Some of the statements thus lack verifiability (apart from the awards, "she was interim director", this is only mentioned on primary sources, or "Ho is noted for her work in leading the early adoption of artificial intelligence in astrophysics" not supported by sources, but only arxiv publications - which is not independent, etc.).
This is great, looks much better now! I am trying to fix some additional issues when mentioning being the "first" to do something - the statements are not supported by the references, where I could not find confirmation.
Also, perhaps one could try to be more precise when saying that "her team" achieved something: was it her leading the group, or was it the team she was part of? Many of the cited papers do not have her as the last author, which would usually imply a leadership role (as mentioned in the deletion discussion). Perhaps it is better to say she collaborated?
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