Talk:Shiva Tandava Stotra
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Apology
editI removed the external links from this article believing that they did not fit WP:EL. I just read the following line from that link
An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply.
Which pretty much decides that the links do belong.
I apologize for not researching the guidelines for external links more thoroughly.
Boon of invulnerability, Shiva or Brahma?
editThis article says that Shiva granted Ravana invulnerability. The Ravana article says it was Brahma. I know that different sources may say different things, but it would be useful to have the source. -- Q Chris (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Brahma had given a boon to Ravana that he would not be killed by devas, asuras, monkeys, demons etc., every creature except humans. After praising Shiva through the composition and singing of this strota, shiva gave him Chandrahas- his own sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akuap2001 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
missing two couplets verse
editThese verses are song by Anuradha Paudwal. Can anyone join them in the main poet.
Shiveti mantramuccaran-kada sukhi bhavamyaham
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Nilimpanatha-nagari-kadamba-maulimallika ||निलिम्प नाथ नागरी कदंब मौलिमल्लिका || Nigumpha-nirjharaksharan-madhushnikamanoharah ||निगुम्फ निर्झराक्षरण मधुश्निका मनोहरह: || Tanotu no mano mudam vinodini-maharnisham || तनोतु नो मनो मुदम विनोदिनी महर्निशम || Parashriyah parampadam tadangga-jatvi-shancayah || परश्रीयाय परम्पदम तदंग जटवि शान्कया ||
Pracanda-vadava-nala-prabhasubha-pracarini || प्रचंड वडन नाल प्रभसुभ प्रचारिणी || Mahashtha-siddhi-kamini-janavahuta-jalpana || महस्थ सिद्धी कामिनी जनवहुता जल्पना || Vimukta-vama-locana-vivaha-kalika-dhvanih || विमुक्त वाम लोचना विवाह कालिका ध्वनी : || Shiveti-mantrabhushana-jagajjayaya jayatam || शिवेति मंत्र भूषण जग्गत जयाय जायतां || --
mam hi nityamevamuktamuttamottamam stavam
Word Spacing
editI wanted to know if the spacing between English words should be like the Sanskrit notation or should let it be as is. I personally want to let the spacing be as is because its easy to learn or to read, but keeping it like the Sanskrit version is makes it more accurate. For example, "जटाटवीगलज्जलप्रवाहपावितस्थले" will not translate to "Jata tavee gala jala pravaha pavithas thale" and instead will be read as "Jatataveegalajalpravahapavithasthale". It will be one word, just like the Sanskrit text instead of wrongly splitting into 7 different English words. (I say wrong because they're not all split according to rules of "Sandhis" and "Samasas") Let me know how it should be, I'm confused myself. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. D437 (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion, the words should be split because those who are not familiar with Sanskrit or Hindi won't know the pronunciation breaks if the whole thing is just one word. However, the "Hunterian" parts need some improvement if the objective is to produce the same pronunciation. For example, in the first line/word, "gala jala" would be "galaj jala" and "pavithas thale" would be "paavita sthale". Ishu bagaria (talk) 18:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Removed article needs more citations
editI added lot of citations and have removed the message on top of page asking for more citations. I am new to Wikipedia so if someone disagrees, please let me know.Gambler (talk) 16:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Added back the translation
editSo I am new to Wikipedia and in order to improve this page, I added translation from some site. The site had copyright material and my change was reverted. I do not contest that change. I have, however, added back the translation that existed before my change. I suppose it should be ok because that translation existed for a long time. Let me know if you disagree. Gambler (talk) 16:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Removed text
editI removed the entire text of the Stotra per WP:NOTLYRICS. It is salvaged below - please feel free to copy it to Wikisources. — kashmīrī TALK 16:53, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Query to the removal of text: Deleting this section would remove two critical aspects -- Pronunciation and Meaning -- of the said lines. Consider that this is not just a song, but a rare example of early Sanskrit verse not derived from Vedas or its associated sources. If you'd still insist that the section be deleted, please find a way to restore the Meaning of the verses to the given article and a create the Wikisource page. Otherwise, the quality of article is affected adversely by the deletion. Pats (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well, judging from the style it is not really "early Sanskrit", I don't know whether anyone has tried to date this verse but to me it doesn't really feel earlier than the beginnings of Christian era. But that's a minor detail and I agree that there is a lot that can be written about its style, e.g., about a skillful use of assonance. Still, a Wikipedia article is not the place to store entire texts; Wikisource has been created precisely for that purpose. — kashmīrī TALK 16:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
The entire text is not large enough compared to the length of the article. There are no copyright infringement issues. This article answers the questions on the meaning and pronunciation of an otherwise difficult Sanskrit hymn. The phrasing of these shlokas is smiliar to the song-like shlokas from Saam Veda, which was written between 1500-1000 BCE. There is little reason to make this article suffer by removing relevant content.
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With his neck, consecrated by the flow of water flowing from the thick forest-like locks of hair, and on the neck, where the lofty snake is hanging like a garland, and the Damaru drum making the sound of Damat Damat Damat Damat, Lord Śiva did the auspicious dance of Tandava and may He shower prosperity on us all.[1] | |
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I have a very deep interest in Lord Śiva, whose head is glorified by the rows of moving waves of the celestial river Gaṅgā, agitating in the deep well of his hair-locks, and who has a brilliant fire flaming on the surface of his forehead, and who has the crescent moon as a jewel on his head.[2] | |
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May my mind seek happiness in Lord Śiva, in whose mind all the living beings of the glorious universe exist, who is the sportive companion of Parvati (daughter of the mountain king), who controls invincible hardships with the flow of his compassionate look, who is all-pervasive (the directions are his clothes - signifying Lord Śiva is beyond desires).[3] | |
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May I seek wonderful pleasure in Lord Śiva, who is the supporter of all life, who has a creeping snake with reddish brown hood and with the luster of his gem on it spreading out variegated colors on the beautiful faces of the maidens of directions, who is covered with a glittering upper garment made of the skin of a huge intoxicated elephant.[4] | |
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May Lord Śiva give us prosperity, who has the moon (relative of the Chakora bird) as his head-jewel, whose hair is tied by the red snake-garland, whose foot-stool is grayed by the flow of dust from the flowers from the rows of heads of all the Gods, Indra/Vishnu and others.[5] | |
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May we get the wealth of Siddhis from Śiva's locks of hair, from Him who devoured the God of Love with the sparks of the fire flaming in His forehead, who is bowed to by all celestial leaders, who is beautiful with a crescent moon.[6] | |
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My interest is in Lord Śiva, who has three eyes, who subjected the powerful God of Love into the fire, flaming Dhagad Dhagad on the flat surface of his forehead, and who is the one expert artist of creation accompanied by Parvati, the daughter of the mountain king.[7] | |
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May Lord Śiva give us prosperity, who bears the burden of this universe, who is lovely with the moon, who is red wearing the skin, who has the celestial river Ganga, whose neck is dark as midnight of new moon night covered by many layers of clouds.[8] | |
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I pray to Lord Śiva, whose neck is tied with the luster of the temples hanging on the neck with the glory of the fully bloomed blue lotuses which looked like the blackness (sins) of the universe, who is the killer of Manmatha, who destroyed Tripuras, who destroys the bonds of worldly life, who destroyed the sacrifice, who destroyed the demon Andhaka, the destroyer of the elephants, and who controls the God of death, Yama.[9] | |
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I pray to Lord Śiva, who has bees flying all around because of the sweet honey from the beautiful bunch of auspicious Kadamba flowers, who is the killer of Manmatha, who destroyed Tripuras, who destroys the bonds of worldly life, who destroyed the sacrifice, who destroyed the demon Andhaka, the killer of the elephants, and who controls the God of death, Yama.[10] | |
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Lord Śiva, whose dance of Tāṇḍava is in tune with the series of loud sounds of drum making Dhimid Dhimid sounds, who has the fire on the great forehead, the fire that is spreading out because of the breath of the snake wandering in whirling motion in the glorious sky.[11] | |
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When will I worship Lord SadāŚiva (eternally auspicious) God, with equal vision towards the people and an emperor, and a blade of grass and lotus-like eye, towards both friends and enemies, towards any valuable gem and some lump of dirt, towards a snake and a garland and towards varied ways of the world.[12] | |
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When will I be happy, living in the hollow place near the celestial river, Ganga, carrying the folded hands on my head all the time, with my bad thinking washed away, and uttering the mantra of Lord Śiva and devoted in the God with glorious forehead with twinkling eyes.[13] | |
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Whoever reads, remembers and says this best stotra as it is said here, gets purified forever, and obtains devotion in the great Guru Śiva. For this devotion, there is no other way. Just the mere thought of Lord Śiva indeed removes the delusion.[14] | |
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On the thirteen day of each paksha of the hindu calendar, in the evening, whoever utters this stotra sung by Rāvaṇa, which is dedicated to the worship of Śiva, Lord Śiva will indeed bless him with great Lakṣmī (prosperity) with all the richness of chariots, elephants and horses.[15] |
- Full text is available on Wikisources here. — kashmīrī TALK 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)