Talk:Shuffleboard

At the Risk of Confusing things further

At the risk of hopelessly muddling things, the game of deck shuffleboard and Floor Shuffleboard bear some obvious and important differences. Deck Shuffleboard is played on wooden decks of ships, and features a semicircular scoring field than floor shuffleboard. Floor Shuffleboard is played on a concrete surface, largely in North America, and features a somewhat triangular scoring field. Originally, the game was played solely on ships crossing the Atlantic, with equipment that was initially intended for other purposes. In 1912 or 1913 the game made the transition to land, with the first courts being constructed in Daytona, FL. Additional courts were built in Williams Park(St Petersburg, FL), and a second Club formed. It was at this second Shuffleboard Club that the rules of (floor) Shuffleboard were codified in the 1920s. Cpeterkelly 05:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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This is from James Masters of the Online Guide to Traditional Games.

It would be wrong to merge Sjoelbak with Shuffleboard. In fact the article is wrong because there is no evidence that I have ever come across (and I've looked quite hard) that the 2 games are linked. The occasional author has speculated that Sjoelbak is derived from the English Shovelboard but this is no more than speculation. Sjoelbak arrived in Holland around 1900 and there is every chance that it was simply a new invention by the Dutch. There may be more to it but until someone finds some evidence, it's best not to bandy around false speculation.

No need to merge

Table shuffleboard and floor shuffleboard are two entirely different games. Combining them would not do justice to the thousands of bars that house shuffleboard tables or the tournaments that so many are so excited to participate in.

sjoelbak

sjoelbak is an entirely different game

FUGGEDABOUTIT!

I think this would be a mistake. Table Shuffleboard and Floor or outdoor shuffleboard are separate games, played with differing equipment by different demographics.

the obvious solution

It is apparent that we should create an entirely new section of the shuffleboard entry for floor shuffleboard. Rather than trying to incorporate the rules of floor shuffleboard into deck or table shuffleboard, we should accomodate the differences of these three just and noble games into one singular Wikipedia entry. Baboom.

Another view

As a player of both games, I would say that they merit separate articles.

Sjoelbak is indeed a different game

Yes, sjoelbak is a different game, it has compartments rather than zones for the pucks to go into. see mastersgames: [1] . I am not sure what the 'official' rules are, but that site has a good set. It is traditional in our family that you can retrieve a puck to play again if you can reach it from under the bridge but thats probably not an official rule.

82.152.3.233 01:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC) Anon

Lines

>...completely within the trapezoidal second tier of the triangle, it is worth eight points; and completely within the trapezoidal third tier of the triangle, seven points

If it is correct that the puck must not be touching the center line of these two sections to score, this is unclear in the current wording. TheHYPO (talk) 06:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

"Middle English" quote

That's not Middle English, yo. That's early Modern spellings of Modern English. Even the Wikipedia article on MidE dates it as ending in the 15th century. This article is misleading on that regard, so I'm going to change it.65.117.234.99 (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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Surely, "Paid to Lord William, for he won, BY the king's grace, at shovelboard" should be 'Paid to Lord William, for he won, FROM the king's grace, at shovelboard"? And a "National Shuffleboard Hall of Fame" is referred to. Wikipedia is international; there are hundreds of nations; therefore, good manners require that the nation should be explicitly named. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 10:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Ods Bodkins! We cannot change the original quote no matter how "bad" the english. For interpretation however, "BY the King's grace" makes more sense, becaue in those times, either the monarch or the diety was given credit for nearly everything. For example, in those times, after a long journey I could say "I arrived safely only BY the Grace of God.", thus giving God credit. PoorWIliam (talk) 05:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The entire article should be restructured so there are three main parts - Introduction, Floor (deck) Shuffleboard, and Table Shuffleboard. PoorWIliam (talk) 05:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The paragraph under the "History" section about the "National Shuffleboard Hall of Fame (NSHF)" belongs to table shuffleboard, not deck shuffleboard. (A Table Shuffleboard example - http://www.tableshuffleboard.org/sollipkin.html content includes "NSHF". Deck shuffleboard does not use the term "NSHF", but rather "Hall Of Fame" or "HOF". Two deck shuffleboard HOF examples - (1) the USA National Shuffleboard Association Hall of Fame at http://national-shuffleboard-association.us/Present%20Notices/USA%20NSA%20Hall%20of%20Fame%20Players%20Award.htm; (2) the Canadian National Shuffleboard Association HOF at http://cnsahof.org/). If there is no further comment on this, I will move the paragraph to the section for Table Shuffleboard - Recent History. There is a whole Wikipedia topic about Table Shuffleboard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_shuffleboard), so most if not all of the details about Table Shuffleboard should be moved over to Wikipedia Table Shuffleboard and replaced here by by a simple summary with links to the relocated details of Table Shuffleboard. PoorWIliam (talk) 05:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC) edited for better spelling and clarity PoorWIliam (talk) 20:15, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Two things

1.) What's the deal with the 10-off field? What does it do? Does it lose the respective team ten points? I've read through the article twice, I don't think there's any explanation. 2.) The "strategy" section is written in the 2nd person. That's not encyclopaedic style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.101.188 (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Biscuit and tang

Biscuit and tang are mentioned in the last sentence under Equipment, but they are not defined. Shouldn't they be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.81.73 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)