This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Coventry, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.CoventryWikipedia:WikiProject CoventryTemplate:WikiProject CoventryCoventry articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball articles
This article is within the scope of the Referees WikiProject, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Referees. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.RefereesWikipedia:WikiProject RefereesTemplate:WikiProject RefereesReferees articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's sport (and women in sports), a WikiProject which aims to improve coverage of women in sports on Wikipedia. For more information, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Women's sportWikipedia:WikiProject Women's sportTemplate:WikiProject Women's sportWomen's sport articles
This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the |auto= parameter.
Latest comment: 13 years ago10 comments4 people in discussion
The trivia (see Notability) surrounding Richard Keys and Andy Gray's sexist comments do not belong in this article, and especially do not belong under the subheading Career. The pundits' comments have nothing to do with Massey's career. In addition, so what if she correctly called a borderline offside during the Wolves-Liverpool match? Its her job to do so, and someone fulfilling their job requirements does not warrant being noted in an encyclopedia.
Tbmurray20:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
While I sympathise with Tbmurray's view, I'm inclined to agree with Malleus on this one. Rightly or wrongly, the Gray-Keys controversy is the main reason most people will have heard of Massey recently, and may well be the reason they've looked at this article. (Certainly, it was the reason I found myself reading it earlier today.) I agree that it doesn't seem fair to focus on this incident too heavily in Massey's biography, as in the course of her career it's not that significant; a sentence or two would be sufficient. But I think it does deserve some mention here, and it doesn't raise any BLP issues, as it doesn't reflect badly on her at all. Robofish (talk) 22:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Fair play, I have added a brief outline of the story which should be sufficient, and which does not detract from the rest of the article. I don't think the actual transcript of what they said is necessary. Tbmurray22:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Neither do I think that a transcript is necessary, and that's not what I added and what you subsequently reverted. In any event, the present couple of sentences seems fine to me, so job done. It would have been more congenial had it been done with less angst, but looking through the edit history I can understand why you may have over-reacted; we're all human. Allegedly. MalleusFatuorum23:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
This article is about Sian Massey. Not Andy Gray, Andy Burton or anybody else. I fully support a detailed narrative of everything Andy Gray said, both to Charlotte Jackson in December 2010 and about Massey on 22 January 2011, and his subsequent disciplinary and sacking, but not here. This story should be limited to a brief overview only in this article, and should not detract from the other highlights of Massey's career. Tbmurray19:25, 25 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
