Talk:Simon Gilbert (tenor)

Redundant (though useful) discussion, including five contested deletions
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Contested deletion This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --SimonLTPSGilbert (talk) 15:16, 1 June 2016 (UTC) It is based on fact and information directly from Simon Gilbert (himself). This can be verified from his website at www.letthepeoplesing.co.uk also. Contested deletion This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --SimonLTPSGilbert (talk) 15:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Simon Gilbert as referenced here on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_La_Mancha_(film) Music[edit] Mitch Leigh's Tony Award winning score, which onstage used no stringed instruments aside from guitar and string bass, is augmented in the film adaptation with discreet string orchestration by conductor Laurence Rosenthal, whose work was nominated for the Academy Award for Original Song Score and Adaptation. The heaviest string orchestration is used in the deathbed scene. As in the stage version, a solo Spanish guitar provides accompaniment in the scene in which Don Quixote keeps vigil over his armor. Two songs from the musical, "What Does He Want of Me" and "To Each His Dulcinea", were completely omitted from the film, as were two verses of "Aldonza" and the second verse of the deathbed reprise of "Dulcinea". The lyric of "It's All The Same" was partially rewritten by Joe Darion. The last few lines of "I Really Like Him" were also rewritten. O'Toole's singing voice was deemed to be inadequate, and was re-recorded by Simon Gilbert.[15] All the other actors did their own singing. Contested deletion This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --78.32.107.153 (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2016 (UTC) I know this person and I know this information to be factual. Then you should probably also read WP:COI. Cheers, Muffled Pocketed 15:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC) I am a friend and the website designer of Simon Gilbert. Having spent a lot of time with Simon discussing his life story we looked at various things on Wikipedia. On The Man Of La Mancha (film) reference he was mentioned. I suggested that he should have his story on there too and so drafted the page about him based on the information and photos at my disposal. Being 78 years old, Simon asked that I do the Wikipedia for him - so I have. I set it up in his name and email, so that he could verify anything you may require. It seems that this may be a mistake in that you might consider this a conflict of interest - I can assure you it is a genuine attempt to add the story of his career.I have seen first hand various photos and memorabilia to confirm this information to be true. Dean Vale dean@dv8create.co.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonLTPSGilbert (talk • contribs) 15:59, 1 June 2016 (UTC) It's not impossible that he should have his own article; but, you see, as it reads, it sounds overly promotional (i.e., not encyclopaedic) in tone, and more importantly, has no refernces to what we describe (and require) as 'reliable' sources. These are third party and independent sources; they will therefore demonstrate an inherent notability in the subject. Muffled Pocketed 16:14, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Contested deletion This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --Dean Vale (talk) 16:29, 1 June 2016 (UTC) I am able to verify that the information on this page is accurate. I have come to know Simon Gilbert having built a website for him. I suggested he add his information to Wikipedia to fill the gap in the information about the Man of La Mancha (film) in which he was the singing voice rightly acknowledged on your very website here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_La_Mancha_(film) Music[edit] Mitch Leigh's Tony Award winning score, which onstage used no stringed instruments aside from guitar and string bass, is augmented in the film adaptation with discreet string orchestration by conductor Laurence Rosenthal, whose work was nominated for the Academy Award for Original Song Score and Adaptation. The heaviest string orchestration is used in the deathbed scene. As in the stage version, a solo Spanish guitar provides accompaniment in the scene in which Don Quixote keeps vigil over his armor. Two songs from the musical, "What Does He Want of Me" and "To Each His Dulcinea", were completely omitted from the film, as were two verses of "Aldonza" and the second verse of the deathbed reprise of "Dulcinea". The lyric of "It's All The Same" was partially rewritten by Joe Darion. The last few lines of "I Really Like Him" were also rewritten. O'Toole's singing voice was deemed to be inadequate, and was re-recorded by 'Simon Gilbert'.[15] All the other actors did their own singing. I have seen photos and memorabilia to confirm the story of his career. Simon is now 78 years old and as such not very good with computers. He has asked me to do this for him and I put together the story of his career and uploaded it in an account in his name using his email - (Simon@letthepeoplesing.co.uk) so that he could, if required confirm it was him and update/ manage the information in his own right. It appears that this may have been misconstrued as a conflict of interest. I am just putting the story of Simon Gilbert in its rightful place. He has had a creditable career in musical theatre working with some of the big names in musicals. Can you please advise as to the best way to ensure that this article on him is kept online? I have just told you. Why are you ignoring it? Muffled Pocketed 16:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Contested deletion This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --Dean Vale (talk) 16:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC) You can also see information on Simon Gilbert in the following places: http://www.letthepeoplesing.co.uk/about-simon-gilbert/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0318236/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L54jbJlg1w https://www.linkedin.com/in/simongilbertsings https://www.amazon.co.uk/Simon-Gilbert-Musicals/dp/B002RWPE5K/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1464799159&sr=1-4&keywords=simon+gilbert http://www.pamalam.co.uk/The_Impossible_Dream.htm

Clarification needed

The article claims that Gilbert (a male) understudied Cleo Laine (a female) in the production of Mame. This seems unlikely. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)