Talk:Simplified Spelling Board
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Spelling and Semantics
editI enjoyt reding this articl, but wot dahz "The order was obeyed, and among the President's special message regarding the Panama Canal was printed using the Board's word list" men, hevenz abav? Frank Landsman (talk) 07:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I was about to say the same thing. Any takers? Bazza1971 (talk) 09:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
"English might be made the world language of the future"
editUm, wasn't it already? See British Empire. 86.150.96.146 (talk) 08:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I think there's a difference between "a world language" and "the world language"... Bazza1971 (talk) 09:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes and the dominant "world language" at this time was undoubtedly French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.158.94 (talk) 00:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Carnegie; Psychic?
editThere's kind of an eerie parallel between some of these reformed words and the modern-day txt speak and internet slang... I mean, did anyone else have to look twice at the word 'thru' to find what the correction was? SMS language —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irontobias (talk • contribs) 08:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
27 SSB rules from 1920
editThe article is missing a discussion on the activities of the SSB between 1906, when it published its list of 300 words, and 1920, when it announced a set of 27 rules for reform and a short list of words. These rules are:
- For æ (ae) or œ (oe) in initial or medial position, substitute e: esthetic, medieval, subpena. Retain æ (ae) in final position: alumnæ.
- Drop silent b before t: det, dettor, dout.
- For final ceed, substitute cede: excede, procede.
- When ch is pronounced as /k/, drop h except before e, i and y: caracter, cronic, eco, scool, stomac but retain ch in architect, chemist, monarchy.
- When a double consonant occurs before a final silent e, drop the last two letters: bagatel, bizar, cigaret, gazet, giraf.
- For final double consonant, write single consonant except where ll follows a long vowel or ss in words of two syllables or more: ad, bil, bluf, dol, eg, glas, los, but retain double consonant in all, roll, needless.
- Drop the final silent e when:
- After a consonant followed by a short stressed vowel: giv, hav, liv.
- In the three words are, gone, were.
- In the final unstressed syllables ide, ile, ine, ise, ite, ive when pronounced with /ɪ/: bromid, hostil, examin, practis, definit, activ.
- After lv and rv: involv, twelv, carv, serv.
- After v or z, when preceded by a digraph representing a long vowel or diphthong: achiev, leav, freez, gauz.
- In final oe when pronounced /oʊ/: fo, ho, ro. Retain e in inflected forms: foes, hoed, roes.
- When ea is pronounced as in head or heart, drop the silent letter: bred, brekfast, hevy; hart, harth.
- When final ed is pronounced as /d/, drop the silent e, and reduce any preceding doubled consonant to a single consonant: anserd, cald, carrid, preferd, wrongd. Do not make this change if the spelling suggests an incorrect pronunciation: bribed not bribd; changed not changd, used not usd etc.
- When final ed is pronounced as /t/, drop the silent e, reduce any preceding doubled consonant to a single letter and change ced, sced to st: askt, indorst, kist, past; advanst, acquiest. But not when the change suggests an incorrect pronunciation: baked not bakt; deduced not dedust; faced not facd or fast; hoped not hopt etc.
- For ei pronounced as /iː/ write ie: conciet, deciev, iether, wierd.
- In final unstressed ey, pronounced as /i/, drop silent e: chimny, mony, vally.
- For gh pronounced as /f/, write f and drop the silent letter in the preceding digraph: cof, laf, enuf, ruf, tuf.
- When gh is pronounced as /g/, drop h: agast, gastly, gost.
- In final gm, drop silent g: apothem, diafram, flem, paradim.
- In final gue after a consonant, a short vowel or a digraph representing a long vowel or diphthong, drop silent ue: catalog, harang, leag, tung (tongue), but not in rogue, vague etc.
- When final ise is pronounced like ize, write ize: advertize, advize, merchandize, rize, wize.
- In final mb after a short vowel, drop silent b: bom, crum, lam, lim, but not after a long vowel as in comb, tomb etc.
- When ou before l is pronounced like o in bold, drop silent u except in the word soul: bolder, colter, mold, molt, sholder.
- For final ough, write o, u, ock or up according to the pronunciation: altho, boro, do, donut, furlo, tho, thoro, thru, hock, hiccup. For plough write plow, but not bow for bough.
- For final unstressed our, write or: color, flavor, honor etc.
- For ph pronounced /f/, write f: alfabet, fantom, fonograf, sulfur, telefone etc.
- For final re after any consonant except c, write er: center, fiber, meter, theater. But retain re in lucre, mediocre.
- In initial rh, drop h: retoric, reumatism, rime, rubarb.
- In initial sc pronounced as /s/, drop silent c: senery, septer, sience, sissors etc.
- When u is silent before a vowel, drop it: bild, garantee, gard, ges, gide, gild etc.
- When y occurs between consonants, substitute i: analisis, fisic, gipsy, paralize, sithe, tipe etc.
In addition, the respelling of the following words are not covered by these rules and are treated separately: aker, anser, beleager, burlesk, buro, campain, catar, cask (for casque), counterfit, delite, diarea, foren, forfit, frend, grotesk, hemorage, hemoroid, iland, ile, ilet, mark (for marque), maskerade, morgage, picturesk, reciet, siv, slight (for sleight), sorgum, sovren, spritely, tisic, tisis, tuch, yoman, yu, yung, yungster, yunker. The preceding is from this reference: Wijk, Axel (1959). Regularized English. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. pp. 74–76.. In addition, any material on the activities of the SSB after 1920 would be a useful addition. Did they do much after 1920? When did they disband? -- B.D.Mills (T, C) 11:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Carnegie?
editWhen he said "I think I hav been patient long enuf... I hav much better use for twenty thousand dollars a year."
was he mocking the new writing system, or was that how it was supposed to be spelled under the new system? Bumblebritches57 (talk) 13:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Also, I know it doesn't state it in the article, but it's implied that it was a failure, can anyone clarify if this program has had an impact on how we spell some words today? they seemed to use british spellings like Plough, and recommended using plow instead, which is what we use today, or if the usage of such spelling arose separately, and if so, how? Bumblebritches57 (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- The British spellings. Speling12345 (talk) 7:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
a.s.f. ?
editIn the table, under 'Examples' there is 'a.s.f.' What does this mean?82.16.195.178 (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Paul
Restarted in 1923?
editThis article suggests the board restarted in 1923. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendo1769 (talk • contribs) 02:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)