Talk:Singapore Naval Base

Inappropriate language: "tout"

Winston Churchill touted it as the “Gibraltar of the East”.

Touted? Really?

tout (tout)

v. tout·ed, tout·ing, touts v.intr. 1. To solicit customers, votes, or patronage, especially in a brazen way. 2. To obtain and deal in information on racehorses.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tout

What's wrong with "Winston Churchill called it the Gibraltar of the East?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.167.32 (talk) 08:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't agree. "Tout" in this context simply follows (one of the definitions of) the Oxford English Dictionary, which is "to attempt to persuade people the merits of something". To say that Churchill "called it" is to water down the strength of his words and make them a simple statement, which is not the case.Twistlethrop (talk) 02:09, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not staggered.

It was completed in 1939 at a staggering cost of £60 million[1] — equivalent to £2½ billion in 2006.

I don't think that's staggering at all. £2.5bn over 16 years is only £160m a year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.167.32 (talk) 08:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Does Morris (the cited source) actually call this "staggering?" If so, perhaps it should be made clearer that this is Morris' characterization. --Yaush (talk) 15:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Royal Navy Armament Depot

Menkh4243: Hi! Thanks for adding the external links but the links do not support your claims. The aerial photos and maps does not indicate any information of the bunkers. --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 03:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Justanothersgwikieditor: Hey! I am the leading researcher on the topic. It is area not known even to researchers at URA, NUS or NHB. This is all new research but also sensitive due to it being war related site and close to prisons. My research is correct and a trained eye will know that the maps and aerials support the write up. I would suggest it remain since I am expert on the field. Thank you. Menkh4243 (talk) 04:07, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Menkh4243: Unfortunately this is not how wikipedia works. You need to provide a reference to the statements you written otherwise it will be considered original research as I had previously written on your talkpage. I have to revert your changes. Thanks --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 04:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Justanothersgwikieditor: Hmm I see. But isn't Wikipedia for the greater good of sharing knowledge. This subject area is fresh vital knowledge not previously known by academics, and should be shared with the public. Unfortunately due to the government's involvement, nothing can be referenced directly to those statements as they will not publish my findings. So I am in a tricky spot. Any advice?

@Menkh4243: Without a verifiable source, what you wrote could be a hoax also. Publish your data and knowledge in a journal. Once it is there, we can use it. Thanks. --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 04:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Justanothersgwikieditor::: Hmm how unfortunate. Can images and proof of the findings on a blog or Instagram page be quoted? I can guarantee you its not a hoax haha. This is a frustrating situation. Thanks again for your help and guidance.

@Menkh4243: I am afraid they are not considered Wikipedia:Reliable sources. --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 04:33, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

"Infobox military unit" or "Infobox military installation"

Was having a look at this, with respect to the dry docks and wanted to add coords. I then saw that this uses "unit" rather than "installation" which does not have coords, whereas "installation" does. Shouldn't this be an "installation" as it is a physical thingy that has had many Units, British, Kiwi, Aussie, US, Japanese, Singaporean, call it home in both the past and present. I'm prepared to swap it over if this is OK'd. n.b. I'm not military so I may not be aware of something that is used in their naming conventions.

After I initially posted this, I had a quick squizz at some other places, chosen from memory, that you would call "similar":

• Esquimalt Royal Navy Dockyard
• CFB Halifax
• HMAS Stirling
• HMAS Coonawarra
• Naval Submarine Base Bangor
• Naval Station Norfolk

They all use "installation".