Talk:Sini Shetty/Archive 1

Archive 1

Miss World Pageant Date

I think the date found in the article has to be removed if only because it's not found in the sources cited. It seems some confusion is happening around this information and this article isn't going to clear it up from these sources cited? 50.32.123.21 (talk) 22:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Miss World 2023's Wikipedia article uses that date and location with a source from October that states it is only rumors and social media activity. Our sources here are from June and July and behind the times as I think at that point in time they were all saying maybe it's November. I did run across some official looking Wikipedia rules regarding social media use as a source that seemed to state it can be considered but in trying to discuss this for her birthday recently the whole topic was removed before any discussion took place, but it seemed like it's an evolving possible area of interest for editing on Wikipedia; in this example maybe because the information social media provided is being pointed out by a reliable source first - that unlike I started at long ago, maybe if editors all look at the social media use it can be concluded for their article that it's information can be used in the article based on just the actual social media content being objectively observed together by those editors interested. In the latest example, her birthday being noncontroversial enough to be included in the article based on finding this information through social media use only. 50.107.152.32 (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Citation needed added. Sciencefish (talk) 15:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

That's usually placed at the end of the information being provided that's questioned? References 6 and 7 for that information being found there. The information potentially under removal rules is also supposed to be found somewhere in references 1, 2, or 3 in another section of the article, that's located at this article's beginning. 50.107.171.135 (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Sini's social media seems the best source now of information for those interested in this Miss World pageant and her doings? They will know how it all works now and it could be much more than the final event with much going on for a period of time, this being done in India that could create some interesting social media angles. Our Sini Shetty article doesn't seem to be about to get any special notifications of being a quality one? 50.107.185.156 (talk) 14:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Please provide sources Sciencefish (talk) 15:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I know what you mean but this is only observations of social media activity going on now and it seems solid/official about providing some information that we'll thus have incomplete/incorrect but also obviously not found in the source cited here for it, in what this article has accomplished now. In the least we're leaving unsourced information published in the article already, as I know that's a common concern for editors. The date and location of the Miss World pageant finale that Sini Shetty is involved in is unsourced and apparently also incorrect. appearing twice in this article for a while now however. 50.107.185.156 (talk) 15:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

If the date and location of the Miss World pageant finale is unsourced and apparently also incorrect, please provide a source per WP:PROVEIT, otherwise are not helping to improve the article in any way which is what this page is for. Sciencefish (talk) 16:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

In the least, this article is publishing information that is unsourced because it is not found in the source cited for it and it should be removed from the article, a common procedure for improving an article and the latest topic on her talk page - that for some reason you don't perceive as happening in this example being pointed out now, it seems. It's an easy one, especially since it seems to be proving out to even have been incorrect which is a main reason for this rule? 50.107.185.156 (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:FIXIT: Remove the source, add this Citation needed template: {{Citation needed|date={{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}}}. Sciencefish (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

It's not a good article is all I can come up with at this point in things and it can be improved. 50.107.185.156 (talk) 16:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Not too far off as a potential topic for this page (or having been a past one) but her work with honeybookstudios is impressive enough to inspire some sales for them further making Sini Shetty an influencer. We'd just add "as an influencer" at the end of the last sentence seemingly casually enough as just another matter-of-fact matter to be noted as a possible interest here and I think that will improve the article as it is a pretty interesting fact that should be published like that and the editors here noted for having done something right lately? 50.32.149.116 (talk) 14:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

We'd have to have correctly assessed the complexity of India's current constitutional crisis but as a public figure very interested in India her influence is being used in that context at least, as far as can be found in her social media use so far? 50.107.136.100 (talk) 18:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

They seem to have consistent messaging as an organization with some enforcement of a possible conduct breach employed and here we'd published some early on (part of that messaging, not its breach) and developing an outlet of its objective use in the article would be a logical outcome for her Wikipedia article's intellectual realizations, also, as a way to improve it? For example, diversity and its value/enjoyment looks to be something they consistently express and it can be included into that last sentence as what Sinni Shetty voices advocacy for. 50.107.168.80 (talk) 16:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Major Online Outlet

It seems to me it's going to have social media use as standard for this activity/business of Sini Shetty's now? Finding how that information would be included in the article now would solve getting that information to a reader here, if they already don't know it (or to agree with those that conclude this now) and would at least seem to be an improvement here as important to events as the correct date of the finale to have missed out on in their information. It's much more than having some social media angles for them to play around with during but rather what they'll do now even more so, it seems (and makes sense especially for them)? 50.107.166.71 (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

As wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not WP:NOTGOSSIP, please check WP:RSP for use of and reliability of social media. Social media is generally an unreliable source per WP:USERGENERATED Sciencefish (talk) 16:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia would be supplying this information somehow, that she's more than an influencer, say, in how social media is included in what she does of note and for possible inclusion in her article and for whatever reason this information as to what she does gets used by any reader. So far, her social media use does get pointed out/displayed in regular media but conveying what's currently happening in what's an even more professional capacity of use through her status now, is what we'd be publishing not any description of its content, for this suggestion on how to improve this article. It seems not only of note but basically what they do. 50.107.166.71 (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Date Of Birth

It's easy to conclude that having her correct date of birth in the article would relatively improve her article in how things are successfully accomplished at Wikipedia and having it a well-known source for such information. In important matters, a birth certificate can be used as what's only proof and I doubt that will be directly found in any sources cited, however. That noted, not only is Wikipedia lacking in it's usual function but all involved seem lost on this point of interest as she is doing interviews lately seemingly adding to its clarity by stating in what could be the latest that she's 23. While trying to supplement an article's needed improvement isn't encouraged its use also can't be out of bounds, as talk pages have exposure too. I understand her date of birth to be 12-17-2000, in that context for her Wikipedia involvement now. It could be correct and it would be impressive in her community if left published in her Wikipedia article as the rules include Sini's thoughts of the goings on to be addressed, also. If actually correct, we'd seem significantly focused on what we're supposed to be doing, to her, as I don't think she's any intended cause of the confusion? 74.37.12.154 (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

As this a Biograph of a Living Person (BLP), for date of birth, a citation must be provided for inclusion per WP:BLPPRIVACY. Birth certificates as primary source cannot be used. BLPs are held to a higher standard on wikipedia, per

Notice about sources,

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Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard. If you are connected to one of the subjects of this article and need help, see this page.

Please provide a high-quality source. Sciencefish (talk) 13:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

That blpprivacy link states a possible use of social media as a source for a birthday, in its example? You deleted a whole topic suggesting it be attempted like this here not long ago when her birthday took place within her online community and I removed the second of an alternative longstanding birthday we had published twice in one article, based on this social media happening, kind of like with the finale issues found published here. You point out social media is an unreliable source but it proved correct that time, as when it showed up in their work and was noted here as seemingly objectively official it all has stayed correct for events, unlike what we had published as sourced content that was not in the source cited that you suggested should remain in the article anyway in your plan. At that point our article was not good. Under Wikipedia rules I'd still suggest using December 17th as her birthday in the article but at least we've removed an unsourced and most likely incorrect birthday, at this point. I'm not sure where you've found Wikipedia's stance on a birth certificate in such matters that you reference but that would seem to me to be the best source of all but difficult to obtain. More specifically, Wikipedia supports the subject of this article placing a complaint if necessary? 50.32.98.202 (talk) 15:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

• Using social media for a birthday is very specific, if it's by the subject themselves.
• Birth certificates are a primary source, see WP:PRIMARY.
• Once again: This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Sini Shetty article.
• This is all easily resolved. Please contribute to improving the article, I repeat: Please provide a high-quality source.

Sciencefish (talk) 16:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)