Talk:Sir Robert Hart, 1st Baronet

POV Alteration

This article seems to have fallen victim to wholesale POV alteration around Hart's interaction with Chinese concubines, with a single reference as the source of new material. The original entry was better written. I will endeavour to combine them to retain a neutral POV. B800h (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

His purchase of sex worker labor is well-attested. Of course, you should feel free to bring forward other sources but this not a POV matter, it’s a matter of avoiding WP:WEASEL. JArthur1984 (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Untitled

This article claims that Robert Hart is the founder of the Tongwen Guan, later the Imperial University, now Beijing University, one of the top universities in the world. Is there any evidence of this? The Wiki article on Beijing University claims Prince Gong founded it. Evangeline (talk) 16:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

family

The already cited article "Li, L. & Wildy, D. 'A New Discovery and its Significance: The Statutory Declarations made by Sir Robert Hart concerning his Secret Domestic Life in 19th century China', Journal of the Hong Kong Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, 13. 2003. contradicts most of the discussion of Hart's family in China. Currently the article reads "In 1857 he took a Chinese concubine, Ayao, with whom he had three children and for whom he developed genuine affection and respect. After becoming Inspector-General in 1863, he proposed to marry her, knowing that his family and friends in Ireland might not accept her because she was Chinese and a non-Christian, but she died from loss of blood after giving birth to their third child in 1865. Heart broken, Hart knew the only way to avoid an arranged marriage with a Chinese royal was to find a respectable wife in Ireland during his first leave in 1866. As Ayao's dying wish, Hart brought their three children out of China, provided for them (Anna, Herbert and Arthur Hart), and found them a foster home in London."

Li and Wildy show that Hart's concubine Ayaou was still alive when he left China to find a British wife and that Hart paid her a cash settlement to obtain the three children. Ayaou subsequently married a Chinese man.

Should this sectionn of the article be changed? I don't want to be in too much of a hurry.

Rhardeman (talk) 07:20, 29 May 2016 (UTC) "Li, L. & Wildy, D. 'A New Discovery and its Significance: The Statutory Declarations made by Sir Robert Hart concerning his Secret Domestic Life in 19th century China', Journal of the Hong Kong Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, 13. 2003.

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Citations

This page (particularly the early life bit) seems severely lacking in citations. Whilst I have no reason to doubt the information it does seem like some citations would be good Freddie Scowen (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2019 (UTC)