Talk:Skye Terrier

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Justlettersandnumbers in topic Dogster.com copying incorrect information from this article

Vulnerable Native Breed/Under Threat

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This breed is classed in Britain as a VNB - a breed which originated in the UK but now has registration numbers with the Kennel Club of less then 300 puppies per year.

I'm a Canadian teenager on a gap year before Uni and I'm really interested in this. Would anyone like a VNB paragraph/link on this page? I can write it, but am ignorant about formatting etc. Plus, I'm trying to put together a whole collection on all 29 breeds on this list, including history and so on, using Wikipedia as one of my many sources. If you can help, or are interested at all, please contact me either on my talk page or at green_ied_dragon@hotmail.com

--The Wizard of Magicland 19:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Plagiarism

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Tnis whole description, as with most of the dog breed pages, has been totally lifted from various breed pages from AKC and other places. Plagiarism at its worst. See http://www.dogs.pk/breeds/skye_terrier.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.186.11.5 (talkcontribs) 17:22, 14 September 2006

The contributer is quite correct - big chunks have been lifted. The copyvio stuff is too woven in to clean up the history. I am copyvio tagging and will put the bits that look OK in the temp article. The original article needs deleting and replacing. TerriersFan 22:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

If you mean "not very good" plagiarism, I have to agree. However, it's very difficult to paraphrase a standard without either plagiarizing or subtly changing the meaning. Perhaps "Skyes are short, hairy dogs, see the AKC or the Skye Terrier Club websites for details" would have been more to your liking? --TerrierTribe 16:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Breeder References

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This page should not be a place for breeder's websites advertisements, and subsequently the removal of the last four links under the links section should be considered (the links including "Terrier Tribe" ; "Gleanntan Kennels, Reg."  ; "Elsmoor Skye Terriers"  ; and " Lairdoglen Skye Terriers " ) At the very least, if the website(s) have very little unique breed specific information not found within the primary Skye Terrier Club links, they should highly be considered for removal. Wikipedia is about attaining information, not advertising puppies and/or specific kennels. If it is believed that valuable information is contained within these breeder's webpages, it would be suggested to include the important breed specific information, or to paraphrase that information in the actual Wikipedia article, then create a link to their source. Lcooper2008 (talk) 06:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

It is done.--Violaine2 (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Prescriptivism...

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This article talks about the characteristics of the animal as "must be" and "should be".

I'm sorry, but I don't get this. Does a Skye terrier cease to be a Skye terrier if it has curly hair?

If you want to advise on the kennel club's guidelines for show judging, it'd be better to do so explicitly, surely; let's have a non-judgemental description, please. Prof Wrong (talk) 15:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dogster.com copying incorrect information from this article

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Just archiving this here for posterity as this source is used elsewhere on Wikipedia.

In 2006 this article was created with a claim that hyperthyroidism is a 'concern' in the breed: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skye_Terrier&oldid=75953576

Hyperthyroidism is incredibly rare in dogs and they are much more likely to suffer from hypothyroidism, in fact the Skye Terrier is 3 times more likely to develop hypothyroidism than other breeds according to one study.

The information for this health section is sourced from here: https://web.archive.org/web/20050311235945/http://clubs.akc.org/skye/html/archive_12.html

The AKC article correctly states that hypothyroidism is a concern for the breed, whilst the editor mistakenly wrote hyperthyroidism (a claim which persisted nearly two decades without anyone fact checking it).

As you can see here: https://web.archive.org/web/20240429060526/https://www.dogster.com/dog-breeds/skye-terrier dogster.com also repeats this claim, the only place this claim is mentioned is Wikipedia and low quality sites that copy from Wikipedia. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Traumnovelle, I've added dogster.com to our list of untrustworthy sources (thought it was there already). Please feel free to add to that list whenever you come across more such 'sources'. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply