Talk:Sleeping positions
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Pseudoscience?
editThese descriptions of personality types by sleeping position sound like pseudoscientific hogwash. Are there any other sources to back it up? Abductive (reasoning) 19:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not to mention that the survey on couples' sleeping positions strikes me as a publicity stunt commissioned by Travelodge. IMO, only the "Health issues" section of the article has any merit. The rest should be deleted.-PlasmaDragon (talk) 20:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I share the above opinions, but wouldn't be comfortable removing that much material from an article without some sort of approval from a more senior editor. 128.170.224.10 (talk) 22:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, as the article's originator, I've minimized the hogwash, but I don't think the sleeping positions should go. After all, there were three surveys, all reported by separate and reliable news sources. I doubt the BBC would allow itself to be used by Travelodge just for publicity's sake. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, it would. Companies commission dubious polls and pseudoscientific "studies" in order to generate press coverage, and overworked journalists report on it in order to meet their quotas. See churnalism.-PlasmaDragon (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Can a definition of "spooning" be included please? 91.105.60.187 (talk) 22:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'll wikilink it.-PlasmaDragon (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I still think it's very misleading to imply sleeping positions tell us so much about our personality. I haven't been able to find any substantial research whatsoever. The linked BBC article claims that 41% of British sleepers sleep in the fetal position, but they are all somehow tough on the outside, soft on the inside, and initially shy? I'm calling bullshit - can we revise the first line of the article to remove the woo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.197.91 (talk) 08:54, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'll wikilink it.-PlasmaDragon (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, as the article's originator, I've minimized the hogwash, but I don't think the sleeping positions should go. After all, there were three surveys, all reported by separate and reliable news sources. I doubt the BBC would allow itself to be used by Travelodge just for publicity's sake. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I share the above opinions, but wouldn't be comfortable removing that much material from an article without some sort of approval from a more senior editor. 128.170.224.10 (talk) 22:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Request by anon. IP moved here
editCan someone add a section on historical background for the direction, north south east west, in which someone should sleep
- I've started a new section for the direction. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm removing that section. The focus of the article is what position on the bed people sleep in, it shouldn't go beyond that. --—Cliffb (talk) 09:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- I've restored that section. "body configuration assumed by a person during or prior to sleeping" says nothing about "position on the bed", nor should it. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- I'm removing that section. The focus of the article is what position on the bed people sleep in, it shouldn't go beyond that. --—Cliffb (talk) 09:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Health information
editI entered the article looking for health information. I sometimes suffer back ache after sleeping and I wanted to see which position was the best. If asked about how to improve the article, I would say that adding health information, more relevant than statistical one Inconexo (talk) 09:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC).
No such Idzikowski paper
editThis blogger tried to track an original paper down and failed:
I tried myself on Google Scholar. There was one hit (in English) with a reference to a "famous paper by Dr Idzikowski" that turned out in the bibliography to be nothing more than the URL to the BBC article cited here.
I don't know if the BBC reporter made this up, whether Dr Idzikowski was pulling the BBC's leg (delayed April 1st syndrome), or he was handing them a jumbo helping of click-bait flagged with his eminent credentials to atone for something awful in a previous life, but it certainly seems he has published nothing at all in this vein that was peer reviewed (or even peer previewed). Really there should be some back reference in the system somewhere which does not seem to exist (I extend my full and heartfelt apology to Dr Idzikowski if this missing primary document rematerializes).
Here's the paper with the most incredible [6] I've ever seen:
— MaxEnt 13:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I also tried to track it down. Without success, so I contacted Dr Idzikowski by email, and, Here are two main quotes from his answer:
You must take the whole piece as frivolous chaff that has been melded from real data
— Dr Idzikowski
and
The paper (there was one) and article were supposed to be a vehicle to attract attention to sleep and that sleeping position can impact on health, with the personality component acting as a hook . The paper was never intended for scientific appraisal - it was to be self-evident that it was a joke.
— Dr Idzikowski
I cannot give any more sources, as I don't have his authorization to publish the whole mail.
So... I think this part should be removed
— Anonymous 23:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Done. Now we can all sleep better. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:28, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
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Quality
editThis article is tremendously low quality! 107.77.209.34 (talk) 01:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Sleeping direction
editWhich direction should you sleep towards? Why? 42.111.15.16 (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: CMN2160A
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 September 2022 and 15 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ashleyyshen (article contribs).
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