Talk:Smelly Cat/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 16:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I'd love to review this. I'm a huge fan of this show! :-) – zmbro _(talk) 16:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

There are currently two citation needed tags in the "Use in Friends" section. These gotta be taken care of before I can start. – zmbro _(talk) 16:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good. Looking forward to your comments; I've corrected the citations in that section.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:51, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Awesome! By the overall looks of it, this'll definitely be a pass, just gotta fix a few things. Full review tomorrow. :-) – zmbro _(talk) 22:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Make sure band names that start with "The" (in this case "the Hairballs" and "the Pretenders") are lowercase mid-sentence (see MOS:THEMUSIC)

fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• "soundtrack Friends Again (1999)" → "soundtrack album Friends Again (1999)"

done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Great job on the lead, very well written :-)

Thanks!--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:35, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Forgot something, make the record labels into a flatlist like genre, writer, etc. in the infobox. – zmbro _(talk) 22:08, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Background and writing

• I would change instance of things like this: ""The One with the Baby on the Bus” (season six, episode two)" to something like "the second episode of the sixth season: "The One with the Baby on the Bus"); also, this is actually flipped, that episode is season two, episode six

fixed. And thanks for the correction! Can't believe I didn't catch that.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Very interesting read

Use in Friends

• "The song is established as Phoebe's least popular among audiences." – just a question but didn't it become one of her more popular ones later on? I can't remember specifically, but if it did I'd say "The song is initially established..." but if not leave it

if I remember correctly, within the context of the series the song was never particularly well-liked (then again, none of Phoebe's songs are), but she just plays "Smelly Cat" so often that her "fans" just come to accept it – almost like it's more notorious than popular. But I've added "initially" for clarification.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Link plot hole (I knew that was a plot hole lol)

done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• "Following filming of the Friends series finale in January 2019" very positive the series finale wasn't filmed this year

whoops. Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Composition

• Shouldn't the box-quote lyrics be sourced?

Done. Source added.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Actually didn't know it has more than one verse, neat!
• Not many problems here, very well-written and nicely done :-)

Thanks a lot!--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Reception and popularity

• Looks good

Thanks!--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Live performances and covers

• "Upon learning about the remix, Kudrow said "I can't wait to hear if it is any good"." did she end up hearing it?

Unfortunately, can't find a reliable source supporting that she actually ended up hearing it.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Nit-picky but I think an image of Swift from her 1989-era would fit better here, not her Speak Now-era, especially since she performed it on the 1989 World Tour.

Makes sense to me. Image replaced.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• "As of 2016, Daily" I think I would say "E. G. Daily" here since it's been quite awhile since Daily was mentioned

Understandable. Done.

Legacy

• Why does Kudrow refuse to perform it?

Can't really find reliable sources in which she delves into why, but probably because she isn't a professional singer although she plays a musician on Friends.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

References

• Discogs is actually an unreliable source (see WP:NOTRSMUSIC); these gotta be replaced

Oh darn. Didn't know; I've replaced these.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:43, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• I would try to archive every ref you can

Done.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Final thoughts

• Everything else looks great. Very well done, this should be a GA in no time :-) – zmbro _(talk) 16:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I think I've addressed everything. Awaiting final verdict zmbro--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Changedforbetter Sorry I've been out of town all day. Consider this a ✓ Pass. Congrats! – zmbro _(talk) 01:25, 21 June 2019 (UTC)