Talk:Snagglepuss
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Catchphrases
editThere's a confusing line in the description of Snagglepuss' catchphrases -
'Snagglepuss typically appends the adverbial focus particle "... even" to synonyms (instead of the more commonly used "[concept A]; [concept B, which tops concept A and/or includes but is not limited to concept A] even" format).'
Would it make sense to give some examples?
Heavens to Murgatroyd!
editThe second sentence of the second paragraph under "Character" is incorrect:
"His most famous is his perpetual exclamation, 'Heavens to Murgatroyd!' – a line first uttered by Bert Lahr in the film Meet the People (1944).[1]"
The citation is to an article on the Phrase Finder website.
I just viewed the 2009 DVD edition of Meet the People and found that the phrase "Heavens to Murgatroyd!" is never spoken. At 51:25 in the film, Lahr says, while talking to "Julie" (Lucile Ball) and "Swanee" (Dick Powell) about how to christen a ship using the "Stork Club Glamour Girl" method:
"She grasps the magnum using the continental clutch and with a wild glad cry exclaims, 'I now christen this too, too divine ship the Aloysius C. Murgatroyd in honor of my grandfather, the well-known horse thief'."
This is the only occurrence of the word "Murgatroyd" in the film.
I propose to change the second sentence to:
"His most famous is his perpetual exclamation, 'Heavens to Murgatroyd!' – inspired by a line spoken by Bert Lahr in the film Meet the People (1944)"
I also proposed to add a Note citing the actual line quoted above with a reference the often-mistaken attribution, and a Citation to the location in the DVD noted above.
I would appreciate feedback or advice on the proposed change before moving forward.
Philip Gust (pjgust) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjgust (talk • contribs) 17:18, 4 February 2016 (UTC) Some years later this is still the case and the source cited even disagrees with the assertion made. I'm on mobile currently so editing is hard but I'll try to remember to fix this... Incidentally I read the source in qtuestion before this page, having wondered what a jingle on the BBC 6music Marc Riley show was about Dichohecho (talk) 21:54, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Meeses
editThere is a line in the article which incorrectly attributes a catchphrase to Snagglepuss: "I hate meeses to pieces."
That catchphrase actually belongs to the H-B character Mr. Jinks, as noted in the Wikipedia article on Pixie, Dixie, and Mr. Jinks.
Furthermore, the actual catchphrase uses the (grammatically incorrect) verb "hates" instead of "hate," as stated in the Snagglepuss article.
I suggest correcting the article, to wit: He is similar in appearance to another Hanna-Barbera character, Mr. Jinks, who has a different catchphrase: "I hates meeses to pieces!"
Otherwise, I would suggest removing altogether the line containing that catchphrase.
"Snaggletooth"
editHave just cut the following as it seems to contradict the sources used earlier in the section (and has no source itself):
Confusion reigns in part because in his first appearance in "Lamb Chopped" (an early Quick Draw McGraw short), he is called Snagglepuss but refers to an unseen "Snaggletooth" as his brother. The brownish-orange proto-Snagglepuss also appeared with Doggie Daddy and his son Augie in a short entitled "Snagglepuss".
Noting it here for what it's worth. --McGeddon (talk) 13:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Character
editThe section discusses the voice characterization, and then says that coincidentally, Hanna and Barbera directed the Tom and Jerry cartoons. First, that has little or nothing to do with the character of Snagglepuss. Second, it's not even true. Hanna and Barbera didn't direct all of the T and J cartoons. In particular, Chuck Jones directed some of them. Third, why is it a coincidence? I suggest that statement be removed as irrelevant and incorrect. Tex (talk) 22:16, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
"Heavens to Murgatroyd" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect Heavens to Murgatroyd has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 22 § Heavens to Murgatroyd until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:51, 22 January 2024 (UTC)