Talk:Snow (ship)

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Rama in topic Removal of image

Removal of image

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Apologies if this is considered too bold, but I just removed the following image from this article:

 
Scale model of a 18-gun snow.

That depicted is clearly a small three-masted sloop-of-war, and not at all a snow. Marionvanghent (talk) 04:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

I authored the image in question and put it on the article, and I much belatedly discover Marionvanghent's edit. I have just embarked on a personal project to square the descriptions of the models of naval museum of Paris, and discovered that the model in question was mislabeled as a model of a snow made by French prisonners of war in England, while it is in fact that of a corvette made by an ivory engraver in Dieppe. My original labelling was base on the historical, erroneous label by the Parker Gallery. So many thanks to Marionvanghent for the edit and congratulations on their expertise, keen eye and critical thinking! Rama (talk) 09:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Removed sentence fragments

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I removed two indecipherable paragraphs of sentence fragments from the end of this article. The info in them may be good and pertinent; if so, it should be restored in full English sentences, with proper formatting, by someone familiar with the material. Below is the content I removed, as it appeared on the page:

A snow, 'The Elizabeth', trading between Jamaica and Bristol, England, 1726 (Its Boatswain threw Captain & Mate overboard and took command, indicating a snow's command structure) : His Majesty's snow 'Happy' in 1700 also mentioned |Daniel Defoe|A General History of the Pyrates[3]}}
The Honourable English Company's snow 'The Elizabeth' mentioned on her captain's 1786 gravestone, Sri Lanka photo, ancestry.com

Eric talk 16:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

It would be nice to mention that the snow is an old type of rigging. They where a common sight on the Baltic Sea in the late 16th century. Also, while they bear resemblance to the Brig, they are not related. The brig evolved from the Brigantine, the Snow evolved from the Ship (ship rig). 93.137.108.241 (talk) 22:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Snow vs brig

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I'm not sure who wrote that a snow is a type of brig, but it is total nonsense: For us 21st century folks, the snow and the brig look closely related, while, in fact, they are not. The brig came about by gradually decreasing the size of the brigantine's main sail up to the point where they added a second spar to the main mast (a brigantine has only a single spar on her main mast which is why here main mast is sometimes referred to as a 'schooner mast').

The snow on the other hand is much older and is, in essence, the same as a three masted ship; she was a common type in the Baltic Sea. Her mizzen mast has gradually become smaller and moved closer to her main mast, up to the point where it became a try-sail mast. 94.65.107.55 (talk) 23:28, 13 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hello anonymous ship historian possibly located in Greece! Sounds like you know about this topic. Make an account and help out! Eric talk 05:19, 14 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
I may indeed wade in and edit the article. Not sure I can find enough online sources to back up my knowledge though. 79.130.47.30 (talk) 20:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)Reply