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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 03:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Nominator: Ruby 2010/2013

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 03:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


1: Well-written

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      • Major Point 1: Plot "This episode … met Snow White (Goodwin)." (not a concise summary of the Plot section)
      • Major Point 1.1: In the characters' past "" (not in the lead)
      • Major Point 1.2: In Storybrooke "This episode centers on Mary Margeret … how Prince Charming (Dallas) first met Snow White (Goodwin)." (not a concise summary of the In Storybrooke section)
      • Major Point 2: Production "The episode was written by co-executive producer Liz Tigelaar … though she and Dallas still called the episode their favorite yet." & "A novelization of the episode was released in 2013." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 3: Cultural references "" ('not in the lead, a 'layout issue')
      • Major Point 4: Reception "" (not a concise summary of the Reception section, the Reviews subsection should be expanded)
      • Major Point 4.1: Ratings "It first aired in the United States on … five percent fewer viewers than the previous episode." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 4.2: Reviews ""Snow Falls" received generally positive … was particularly highlighted for praise." (not a concise summary of the Reviews subsection)
    • Check for Relative emphasis:     Done
      • Major Point 1: Plot "This episode … met Snow White (Goodwin)." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 1.1: In the characters' past "" (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 1.2: In Storybrooke "This episode centers on Mary Margeret … how Prince Charming (Dallas) first met Snow White (Goodwin)." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 2: Production "The episode was written by co-executive producer Liz Tigelaar … though she and Dallas still called the episode their favorite yet." & "A novelization of the episode was released in 2013." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 3: Cultural references "" ('not in the lead, a 'layout issue')
      • Major Point 4: Reception "It first aired in the United States on … was particularly highlighted for praise." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body, the Reviews subsection should be expanded)
      • Major Point 4.1: Ratings "It first aired in the United States on … five percent fewer viewers than the previous episode." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 4.2: Reviews ""Snow Falls" received generally positive … was particularly highlighted for praise." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
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        • "Snow Falls" is the third episode of the American fairy tale/drama television series Once Upon a Time.
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    • The lead should be expanded.
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      • Paragraphs should be short enough to be readable, but long enough to develop an idea. One-sentence paragraphs are unusually emphatic, and should be used sparingly. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading. (WP:BETTER).
      • Fix "The episode was included in Reawakened: A Once Upon a Time Tale – a novelization of the first season – which was published by Hyperion Books in 2013." in the Production section.
      • Fix "Cultural references" section. Either this section should be removed or it should be expanded.
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2: Verifiable with no original research

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Cross-checked with other FAs: Over There (Fringe), Pride & Prejudice (2005 film), Caroline of Ansbach, Sense and Sensibility (film)‎

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    • "spoiled" and "regal".[3]
    • "because it is based more on animosity and manipulation and selfishness."[6]
    • "they have a very far way to go from their moment of meeting to falling in love," making the episode "greatly challenging and fun."[6]
    • "we go on quite an adventure and I came away with an actual, physical scar from it."[5]
    • "lot of fun to shoot and it’s just great."[6]
    • "if they continue to be this good, this show should be in for a long run."[18]
    • "wonderful, captivating" … [18]
    • "had me on the edge of my seat and enjoying the ride,"… .[19]
    • "Snow White, the character I had the least interest in two weeks ago, held her own and then some. Heck, I was so enthralled by her story that, for the first time ever, I can't wait to learn more."[19]
    • "without feeling the need to include multiple stories."[20]
    • "excellent" … "silliness of the modern day plot," especially in her developing relationship with Emma.[20]
    • "everyone delivered solid performances... Goodwin stole the show" … "not an innocent, doe-eyed girl."[21] (Random check on source 21, successful, "Everyone delivered solid performances, but as I mentioned before, Goodwin stole the show. She switches between the sweet and seemingly vulnerable Mary Margaret to the mischievous Snow White without missing a beat.", "She doesn't say how. I like that she's not an innocent, doe-eyed girl.")
    • "Goodwin and Dallas hit a perfect rhythm every time they share the screen," … .[21] (Random check on source 21, successful, "The Prince and Snow White instantly connect; Goodwin and Dallas hit a perfect rhythm every time they share the screen.")
    • "fortunate path of getting better each week."[22]
    • "good, complicated role for him."[22]
    • "major problems" of "the lack of any sort of subtlety, nonsensical story developments, and Henry."[23]
    • "corny dialogue" … "best thing" … .[23]
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3: Broad in its coverage

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Cross-checked with other FAs: Over There (Fringe), Pride & Prejudice (2005 film), Caroline of Ansbach, Sense and Sensibility (film)‎

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4: Neutral

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  12. Check for Fringe theories and pseudoscience (WP:PSCI):   None
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5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:   Yes

6: Images   Done (NFC with a valid FUR) & (Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license )

Images:  
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6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:     Done

  1. Check for copyright tags (WP:TAGS):     Done
    • Image 1 (Onceuponsnowfalls.jpg): This image is a screenshot of a copyrighted television program or station ID. As such, the copyright for it is most likely owned by the company or corporation that produced it. It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution screenshots (1) for identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents, and (2) on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Other use of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, might be copyright infringement.
    • Image 2 (Ginnifer Goodwin in March 2012.jpg): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license. This version permits free use, including commercial use.
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    • Image 1 (Onceuponsnowfalls.jpg): (Non-free content)
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    • Source (WP:NFCC#4): http://www.daemonstv.com/2011/11/06/once-upon-a-time-abc-snow-falls-episode-3/ (Screenshot from the TV show)
    • Use in article (WP:NFCC#7): Snow Falls
    • Purpose of use in article (WP:NFCC#8): To illustrate a poignant scene in the episode (infobox).
    • Replaceable? (WP:NFCC#1): No free images known for this episode (Since it's copyrighted, there are no free alternatives available.)
    • Minimal use (WP:NFCC#3): Low resolution
    • Other information: Believed fair use because it does not limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the related product, aids commentary on the plot outline, poignantly illustrates the related episode, and it illustrates the significant moment which characterises the episode in question.

6: Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:     Done

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    • Image 1 (Onceuponsnowfalls.jpg): Relevant to the article
    • Image 2 (Ginnifer Goodwin in March 2012.jpg): Relevant to the article
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    • Image 1 (Onceuponsnowfalls.jpg): Appropriate & Representative
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    • Caption 1 - "Prince Charming (Dallas) and Snow White (Goodwin) meet for the first time" (succinct and informative)
    • Caption 2 - "A horse injured Ginnifer Goodwin's hand and face during filming of the episode." (succinct and informative)


As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

  • The lead does not provide an accessible overview and does not give relative emphasis.
  • The lead should be expanded.
  • Fix short paragraphs.


This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. I’m putting the article on hold. All the best, --Seabuckthorn ♥ 05:33, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there, thank you very much for reviewing! I have expanded the lead per your suggestions, removed the cultural references section due to its shortness, and expanded upon the novelization paragraph. I'm not sure what you mean about the reviews, however. I believe the reviews section is long enough and consistent with other episode GAs, and its main points are summarized well (IMO) in the lead. Could you expand upon why you feel it should be expanded? Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 22:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Thanks a lot for writing such fabulous articles. The article is perfect now. While reviewing I compared the due weight given to Ratings and Reviews in the Reception section with that given in the lead. It appears that there is a mismatch because the proportion in lead is almost equal, but in the body Ratings is much shorter than Reviews. I think I may have misjudged it. Apologies. I'm surprised, my watchlist shows nothing for this article, although you updated your comments on 18th!!. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 06:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 06:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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