Talk:Social class in ancient Rome
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editThis article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Thanlon14. Peer reviewers: Scoughla.
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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 January 2020 and 12 April 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Heinev1. Peer reviewers: KJ18818.
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Update
editI went through and did a complete overhaul of this article. All facts are properly referenced and each topic is linked to its respective wikipedia page if it exists. The charts have been updated to be more easily understood as well. Heinev1 (talk) 18:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- So, classes II-V do not correspond to triarii, principes, hastati, leves, velites? Go-Chlodio (talk) 17:34, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
There is still a problem with the chart on classes in the The Centuriate Assembly and the paragraphs above and below. Paragraph references Class I, there is no Class I in chart. The other paragraph then stated Equestrians and Class I could outvote the other five. I changed that to Class II, then realized maybe it should be Class I and chart should be fixed to add in Class I instead. Also, does IIIII = V? or did Romans have both based of their numerals? Someone more knowledgeable on this will have to fix it. It might also be useful in the chart to reference the name, if one, that corresponds with the "Class II" etc.2603:9005:307:F5BC:D1D2:FB83:D26E:38BD (talk) 15:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Untitled
editI felt it more accurate to divide the article by class and not by time frame, as the rights and responsibilities of the various classes changed at different times. The facts in this article are taken from Livy, Tacitus, and Petrarch, and from asides in the poetry of Juvenal and Horace. --Charlene.vickers 01:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Proleteriat?
editTrue, the entire class has a single vote in the comitia tributa, but still don't they deserve some mention? pookster11 05:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Article needs completely rewritten
editThe current version of this article is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the Roman class system. The Patricians weren't whoever was in the ruling class, they were a select group of families who could claim descent from the founders of Rome. The plebeians were everyone else. The five property divisions of the census were entirely independent of the patrician/plebeian divide and were not based on ancestry. There were many Senators who were plebeian, and they didn't lose their plebeian status when they gained political office. Some religious offices remained open to patricians only - a son of Pompey or Cicero or Marius couldn't be flamen dialis or a pontifex, for example. I'm gathering sources for a rewrite, because as it stands the article's totally misleading. --Nicknack009 21:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Why so many deletions
editLarge parts of this article have been deleted over the last few days. Is there any reason for this or is it vandalism? 81.101.197.228 (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I deleted material that was inaccurate or off-topic and unsourced. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Assignment
editExpanding on certain fundamental Ancient Roman systems like the patronage system and possibility of mobilization would be extremely beneficial. I would also attempt to add the insight of how specialization of public space played a role in the social classes of Rome. I do feel like the article needs some editing, as the defining of terms of groups of people in the beginning is vague and unclear. Some smaller but important parts of Roman social class like how one is named also is not highlighted in the wikipedia article but is very important to understanding the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanlon14 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)