Talk:Socialist Party of Florida

Party Chair

On April 5, former SPFL chair, Brian Moore, was expelled from the Socialist Party. Jim Sanders was elected state chair. Chegitz (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Documentation of this historical event is to be found where?

Two-for-one split?

This is where it gets tricky, does it not? The Universal Truce of Factional Bellybouncing has deemed that one Socialist Party terminated on December 31, 1972 at its New York Convention there when it transformed its name and mission to Social Democrats USA. This organization has been called, for convenience and clarity, by its original name of "Socialist Party of America" even though it used all sorts of names in a more or less official capacity throughout its 72 year life... This group was then succeeded by a new organization established part of the way in to 1973, called for convenience and clarity by its current name, Socialist Party, USA.

Thus is the delicate question of "legitimacy" sidestepped, the SPUSA faction being the smallest of the three siblings of 1973...

But here, with a state affiliate, party history is considered one complete run — which is not technically accurate and which might cause an outburst of Factional Bellybouncing.

I think, at a minimum, this article should be divided internally into sections... OLD SPA here and NEW SPUSA there. Better to split the thing into two different freestanding articles, I think.

Thoughts??? Carrite (talk) 04:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Good idea. --TIAYN (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Fine by me.Chegitz (talk) 23:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Above it reads "Socialist Party, USA" keep in mind there is no comma as the official name in full is Socialist Party of the United States of America. Some members just shorten it to a hyphen and some do not. There has never been a comma.

Actually, it was briefly known as the SP, USA, but to avoid a lawsuit, the comma was removed. Chegitz (talk) 22:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Locals

The Tampa Bay local is chartered, but is currently suspended because it has not had elected the proper compliment of officers. Chegitz (talk) 22:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The national website affiliate list the Fort Lauderdale location. Stating there is a Tampa affiliate and then posting here "suspended" err to the disingenuous nature of a Fifth Column.

Logos

The Florida Division of Corporations which makes logos "official" has no record of any paperwork. A group of people voting to make something "official" does not make it so in the eyes of the law. Pay the annual fee like everyone else or remove the uncited section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.30.234 (talk) 16:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

The Socialist Party operates on a little something called, democracy. Perhaps you've heard of it. Oh, and the State of Florida does have the official logos on file.Chegitz (talk) 05:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Depends on which type of democracy is being used and who is defining the word itself does it not? The letter to the state read the SEC "elected", that does not make it "official". Anyone could get together and elect something. There is a legal process to have and to hold official brands. Take a read and learn something.

Florida law requires that logos for political parties be filed with the Department of State. There is no mention of the Division of Corporations. As you admit that the logos are filed with the Department of State, this discussion is done.Chegitz (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Founder

Sad that the main person behind helping to revive the party in Florida would not be brought up in its' history and in fact attacked. This shows the total failure of infighting has reach an evermore all time high. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.148.253 (talk) 07:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

At least five people were required to refound the party. Why only mention one of them? In any event, it doesn't meet the standards of Wikipedia for inclusion. 12.43.115.249 (talk) 20:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

2014 Gubernatorial Candidate

Filing papers to run for the nomination is not the same thing as being the Party's candidate. At this time, the Socialist Party of Florida has no candidates for governor. 12.43.115.249 (talk) 20:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The hypocrisy is deep within the SPFL as we can read back at this page's record and read Marc Luzietti and his IP posted his own campaign here and it was allowed to stand as he self-appointed himself; yet, a third person posting for a like candidate is attacked out of fear and personal reasons. Has the SPFL become the special ed of kindergarten for socialism in Florida? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.85.73 (talk) 07:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I must agree, if the Marc Luzietti campaign was allowed to stand then the Atlee Yarrow has merit and should not be treated as segregation of socialism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.37.208.185 (talk) 14:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The Luzietti campaign was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.115.249 (talk) 19:17, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Defunct?

Has this party been active anywhere in the last five or six years? If so, is there any documentation? The trail seems to end around 2015, but I'll keep looking. --Chillabit (talk) 09:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Was C.C. Allen Actually a State Legislator?

C.C. Allen is listed as a state legislator in "The Socialist Party of America: A Complete History" by Jack Ross. It was published by a university press (University of Nebraska Press) so my presumption is to assume it is reliable. The book lists C. C. Allen as a state legislator. A search of JSTOR, newspapers.com, and archive.org only confirm that he was a socialist activist and the party's 1916 gubernatorial candidate. Most concerning, People of Lawmaking created by the Florida House of Representatives does not include him as a legislator. Is this an error in the book and if so at what point should he be removed from the article? Mpen320 (talk) 03:54, 7 September 2022 (UTC)