Talk:Solid-state chemistry

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Separating Solid-State Chemistry from Materials Chemistry

Just as a matter of clarity - when chemists refer to "Solid-State Chemistry", it usually refers to work on inorganic solids, independent of any useful properties they may have, while Materials Chemistry refers to work on any solid, organic or inorganic, with useful properties, and is more properly considered a (broad) subdiscipline between chemsitry (a basic science) and materials science (an engineering discipline). This distinction, of course, forces us to draw a distinction at a fuzzy point on things like MOFs/Coordination Polymers, but it's probably for the best that we draw it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.171.128 (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Solid State does not require that solid phases are used or exclusively used

The term 'solid state' in the 20th century arose when vacuum tubes were phased out by transistors. The vacuum tubes contained only matter in the solid phase. However, they were composed of many individual parts, surrounded by a vacuum space, enclosed in glass. A transistor, in contrast, is basically one individual working component, other than the wires / electrical leads and any housing. The semiconductor portion of n-type and p-type silicon (etc.) is one joined unit. THIS is the difference between solid state and non-solid state. Solid state technology has nothing to do with solid phases, gas phases, or liquid phases. A hypothetical liquid semiconductor, contained within some housing, would still be considered solid state. However, vacuum tubes are not solid state because they are composed of many discrete parts (made from various materials) in a three- dimensional architecture; they are not one single 'solid' piece of material doing the same function.

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Wiki Education assignment: CHEM 300

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2023 and 28 April 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ntmy777, Hotsaucefanatic (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Cic12345, AnonymousIpad.

— Assignment last updated by RS UBC800 (talk) 20:39, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Overall, I aim to revise the article using an encyclopedic tone, specifically making edits for sentence structure. I will also add information such as the reaction conditions, controllable parameters and the structures of the product to the synthetic methods section. For characterization, methods to identify elemental compositions are already mentioned. In addition to this, I want to briefly introduce methods that can image surface topography and characterize optical properties. Furthermore, I will find up to date/credible references for citations #4 and #8 and add links to terms that already have existing wiki articles. Ntmy777 (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Ntmy777. Let's work together to improve this article. I outlined my overall ideas in the paragraph below.

I want to improve this article’s characterization section, synthesis section, and citations. For the characterization section, I will add topographical techniques, like SEM-BSE, supported with citations and links. I will revise the paragraphs in the synthesis section for sentence structure and add clarifying information as necessary. Throughout the entire article, I will add missing citations, replace the current bibliography with citations easily accessible for the general public, and update reference 8 from 1977. Hotsaucefanatic (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

@Hotsaucefanatic and Ntmy777:. For inexperienced editors, especially students, it is always a good idea to test small changes. Otherwise there is the risk that your efforts will be wasted. One very important criterion is the quality of your sources. The best sources are from textbooks, per WP:TERTIARY. There are many excellent textbooks on solid state chemistry. The field has not undergone revolutionary changes, so there is little urgency for very recent refs. These pages are patrolled by experienced PhD's who can be very helpful for new editors, but they can also be unwelcoming when they see content they think is inferior. --Smokefoot (talk) 20:30, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Hotsaucefanatic. I have left a peer review for your contributions to this article! Cic12345 (talk) 23:37, 7 April 2023 (UTC)