Talk:Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute, Wq. 132/Archive 1
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Enivak in topic Title
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
ArchiveĀ 1 |
Title
The title of this article is unnecessarily verbose. It should use only one disambiguator, not three. I have no opinion which would be best. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Dear user @Michael Bednarek:, thanks for the comment! I want to ask you (because I am the creator of this draft): can you clarify what you mean, so I can apply the changes, and ask renaming, if needed? Thanks, Enivak (talk) 16:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- There's no compelling need to do anything now while the article is in draft space, but when it gets moved into article space, the title could be Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute, Wq. 132 or Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute, H 562. According to List of compositions by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, the latter seems more appropriate. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, now I understood. In my personal opinion, the Wq. category seems as the one that should be left, the other seem unnecessary. And I would prefer to rename it as soon as possible, so there will be no problems later. Also, if you have any other tips for me, you are welcome to notify me! Thanks, Enivak (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC) Or, a new idea could be of keep and H., the name of the composer is not needed Enivak (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't express my (and Wikipedia's) position clearly enough. An article title only needs disambiguators (those terms in parentheses) if necessary, and only those that are. "inclusive title is needed" is not a valid reason for multiple disambiguators; see WP:NCDAB and WP:ATDAB. This article could be titled Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute as there is no other article so named. If a possible future conflict with a similarly titled work can be foreseen, one disambiguator can be added, in this case, as I wrote above, either "(Wq. 132)" or "(H 562)". Please move the article to one of those titles. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- I moved to the title without disambiguation, Michael, because it seems the primary such piece even in case others should show up. Your turn, as I try observe 1RRĀ ;) - unless you just revert yours, Enivak? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, if the policies say so, i will move to "Wq" only. Enivak (talk) 12:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- I moved to the title without disambiguation, Michael, because it seems the primary such piece even in case others should show up. Your turn, as I try observe 1RRĀ ;) - unless you just revert yours, Enivak? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't express my (and Wikipedia's) position clearly enough. An article title only needs disambiguators (those terms in parentheses) if necessary, and only those that are. "inclusive title is needed" is not a valid reason for multiple disambiguators; see WP:NCDAB and WP:ATDAB. This article could be titled Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute as there is no other article so named. If a possible future conflict with a similarly titled work can be foreseen, one disambiguator can be added, in this case, as I wrote above, either "(Wq. 132)" or "(H 562)". Please move the article to one of those titles. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, now I understood. In my personal opinion, the Wq. category seems as the one that should be left, the other seem unnecessary. And I would prefer to rename it as soon as possible, so there will be no problems later. Also, if you have any other tips for me, you are welcome to notify me! Thanks, Enivak (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC) Or, a new idea could be of keep and H., the name of the composer is not needed Enivak (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- There's no compelling need to do anything now while the article is in draft space, but when it gets moved into article space, the title could be Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute, Wq. 132 or Sonata in A minor for Solo Flute, H 562. According to List of compositions by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, the latter seems more appropriate. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Article moved
I moved the article to a better title, after notice.Enivak (talk) 15:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
'A significant work for unaccompanied flute'
In the article, it says 'It is considered a significant work for unaccompanied flute before the 20th century, and is Bach's only flute composition published during his lifetime.' Who is saying this, though? I'd say you need a source for this. --Praefect94 (talk) 19:02, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Praefect94:: Thanks for the mention, i just did. User:Gerda Arendt did a major and useful copyedit for me, but he/she accidentally deleted some refs, wich i think i have restored.Enivak (talk) 22:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- I am "she", and sorry if I did. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- I should have tagged you, my apologies. I think it's a decent article, but I can't speak much about the actual contents. Best of luck getting it polished up and ready for posting, though! --Praefect94 (talk) 23:20, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Praefect94: Dear user, there is no need to apologize. Thanks about your wishes, i just got access to an ultra useful source. Best regards, Enivak (talk) 09:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)