Talk:Song of Eärendil/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: AryKun (talk · contribs) 09:20, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking this on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

• "how the mariner" → Capitalize Mariner.
  • Surely not – we wouldn't capitalise other professions like shipwright, soldier, farmer.
    • I see that, but Mariner is capitalized in the article about him and I have a hazy memory of it being capitalized while I read LOTR. AryKun (talk) 03:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• Why is the name of the poem italicized in the body and not in the lead? Also, if you're italicizing throughout, you should add an italic title template as well.
  • Italics removed.
• "the Song of Eärendil" → Starting the sentence with the title (in active voice) would sound more natural (i. e. The Song of Eärendil is the longest poem in The Lord of the Rings)
  • We do that in the lead; the History section varies it to accommodate the "also called..." clause.
• "extraordinarily complex" → Seems a bit hyperbolic.
  • Justified here by the large number of versions and then the variations with Bilbo's song. This isn't our opinion but that of Hammond and Scull; I've repeated the ref.
• "Bilbo's song" → Mention his last name here
  • Spelt out at first occurrence.
• "Middle-earth the mariner" → Capitalize Mariner.
  • See above.
• "half-Man, half-Elven" → Link Man and Elven.
  • Done.
• "sort of Paradise" → Paradise is capitalized here but not in the lead.
  • Lower case it is.
• "described by Shippey" → This is the first mention in the body, add first name and link.
  • Done.
• "the elvish tradition" → Capitalize Elvish.
  • Done.
• "words in elven-tongues" → Is "elven" capitalized here in the book? Very pedantic nitpick, I know.
  • No. Tolkien had a complex rule for capitalisation and even he found it hard to follow.
• "scholar and philologist Tom Shippey" → Link philologist. Also, full name and link should be earlier, as noted above.
  • Moved.
• "rooted in Celtic folk" → Link Celtic.
  • Linked.
• Nice work overall.
  • @AryKun: Many thanks as always. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)