Talk:Sony α7S II

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

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Sony α7S II with Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm F4 ZA OSS lens

• ... that the Sony α7S II (pictured) captured the first commercial 4K footage in space? Source: [1][2]
  • ALT1:... that the Sony α7S II (pictured) captured the first commercial 4K footage in space from the International Space Station? Source: [3][4]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esther Tan
• Comment: ALT1 is an extension of ALT0 with additional information, I think shorter is better.

5x expanded by ~riley (talk) and TheSandDoctor (talk). Self-nominated at 06:58, 13 November 2019 (UTC).

• Now, that's a good hook for a commercial product. Starting review. --valereee (talk) 13:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: valereee (talk) 13:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• All of the paragraphs in the features section need their own citation. --valereee (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Will do, thats an easy fix. ~riley (talk) 16:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

•  Done Cited ~riley (talk) 06:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

~riley, each para needs its own, so there are two that still need one. I know, it seems silly when it's the same as the para above and the para below, but that's the DYK rules. --valereee (talk) 19:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done Cited, did not know that, thanks for clarifying! ~riley (talk) 20:35, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

• Both hooks are cited and interesting, but both for the hook and in the article I want some explanation or wikilink of what we mean by 'commercial footage.' I'm guessing it means 'footage captured by something other than a camera purpose-built by NASA' or 'footage captured by a commercially-available product' or something? --valereee (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Will do my best to clarify, intended meaning is commerical level quality. ~riley (talk) 16:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

•  Done Clarified ~riley (talk) 06:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• There are some pretty cool photos in the Sony source that are attributed to JAXA, I wonder if we could access those? Does this have a corresponding article on Japanese wikipedia? --valereee (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Unlike NASA, JAXA has a pretty unfriendly copyright. I have searched long and hard, not being able to find any we can use unless its a fair use claim. ~riley (talk) 16:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Bummer! Fair use photos can't go on DYK, and it's quite possible that fair use wouldn't include those images, which probably aren't necessary for understanding the article subject. Too bad, though, it would have been pretty cool. --valereee (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Just wanted to follow-up on the image you located, I have seen this prior but was hesitant to upload as Sony does not list a specific CC-BY license and also has © JAXA on the page. I'll try to find out more about if we can accept its copyright as it is a great image. ~riley (talk) 22:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Giving this a check for neutral, but if there are positive/negative reviews out there, the article could probably be improved. Since there aren't positive reviews without negative or vice versa, not a neutrality problem for DYK. --valereee (talk) 14:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• I will take a look but the reception of this camera is very positive. If I add that, I am worried the article will not balance out as neutral due to lack of negative reception. ~riley (talk) 16:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• It's fair to provide reception that's overall very positive if that's representative of how the camera was covered by reviewers. I wouldn't worry about adding it for DYK, though, it was just a suggestion for future expansion. --valereee (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Noted for future expansion. ~riley (talk) 06:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• I was thinking we probably need a date in the hook for context. The Forbes article says The camera was launched from earth on December 9, 2016, and installed with Sony’s FE PZ 28-135mm F4 G OSS power zoom lens on KIBO on February 8, 2017. Does one of the sources provide a date the first 4K footage was taken? --valereee (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Unfortunately no sources provide a date for when it was first captured, we do have a date in the sources for when it was first released to the public (July 27, 2017) which is far less interesting. ~riley (talk) 06:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• I have stricken ALT0 as it is too short, favoring ALT1. ~riley (talk) 06:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

approving both alts, nom/creator prefers ALT1 ----valereee (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

from sony website

~riley -- this has a creative commons attribution license:

Here's this from Sony's website