Talk:Sophia Howe

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Reading Beans in topic Requested move 29 August 2024

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Hello. I enjoyed reading this article but I am confused about the references. Do you have further information available for each, such as author name, book/magazine name, year, and/or URL? Thank you.

Rosiestep (talk) 14:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Rosiestep The references issue was discussed on my talk page a while back, and the article does seem to be properly cited now. It would be great to have you weigh in on the current move request though. Rylee Amelia (talk) 14:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi Rylee Amelia. Glad to see that the referencing issue is resolved. As for the move request, I'll let others carry on the conversation as I lack enough familiarity with the topic (British nobility titles). --Rosiestep (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 29 August 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Per discussion below. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading of Beans 14:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)Reply


Sophia HoweSophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe

DrKay and I have found ourselves in disagreement over the title of this article.

At creation, this article was named like it currently is: Sophia Howe. Since she was a peeress suo jure (having inherited the barony from her father), I moved the article to Sophia Howe, 2nd Baroness Howe, which is generally the format for articles on peers – unless they disclaim the title, or don't use it (like for instance author Nicholas Mosley).

DrKay moved it back to Sophia Howe with the comment Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator: mismatch of her maiden name and a title she inherited after her marriage.

I can buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, but I find it peculiar that DrKay nevertheless kept it, while removing the title, which was correct. It seems to me that it flies in the face of his own edit summary.

As I said, I totally buy that her surname wasn't Howe when she inherited the barony, so I then moved the article to Sophia Waller, 2nd Baroness Howe; Waller being her surname when she inherited the title. DrKay has now moved the article back to Sophia Howe again, with the edit summary bizarre use of unknown surname!

What's bizarre?, I ask. DrKay complains the Howe wasn't her surname when she inherited the title, I move it to the surname that she had when she inherited the title, and DrKay moves it back again (never mind referring to WP:RMUM after they have done it themselves ... ).

I don't know if anyone is move-warring here, but if so, it certainly isn't me. I have acted in good faith.

So, what should the article title be?

  1. Sophia Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this lastname is her maiden name.
  2. Sophia Curzon (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 1st husband.
  3. Sophia Curzon-Howe (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), #1 and #2 combined, which is what her son, who inherited the barony from her, chose.
  4. Sophia Waller (with or without "2nd Baroness Howe"), this is the lastname from her 2nd husband.

Vote 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc, with a=with "2nd Baroness Howe", and b=without the title. My vote is 4a.

HandsomeFella (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.