Talk:Sourp Magar Monastery, Cyprus

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Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Happy to see some interest in this topic. 1. Does anybody know the original textual sources which document the Coptic origin of Sourp Magar? 2. Transfer to the Armenians sometime before circa 1425 is often mentioned. What's the source? The wording suggests there is an original historical document which makes mention of Sourp Magar at this time. Does anybody know what it is? Where it is? 3. Armenian community visits to the site: three times per year these days?

Academic style: titles of books and journals are in italics, not author's names. This is standard practice. Rhetoric: we will soon face WIKI guidelines. This is an article on an ancient site, albeit still active, important and much treasured. The article is a place to be objective and factual and to developed historical understanding. It not a place to advance political or partisan views. Thus: some do indeed regard north Cyprus as occupied, but others do not. The exact political understanding or classification can appear under CYPRUS or other appropriate articles. We should, I hope, be able to agree the neutral wording 'northern Cyprus' with a cross-reference in a footnote to the political problems.

This is Alexander-Michael Hadjilyra, author of the book "The Armenians of Cyprus". I will be editing the article soon again. My book is the source of most of what's written here, and its sources have come from a variety of verified other sources. You do not need to be so pedantic about bibliography and references!

The Armenian community has visited the monastery three times so far, not per year.

I will not tolerate any mention to northern Cyprus. The only correct way to refer to it is Turkish-occupied Cyprus. Northern Cyprus is NOT a neutral wording, as it has been used by the illegal pseudo-state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neo ^ (talk • contribs) 14:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Nice to meet you here. I enjoyed your book. I am sure there are host of good sources behind the Coptic history and 1425 transfer to the Armenians. Perhaps these are refered to in older books in Armenian language which are, of course, not available to most of us. It would be good to mention some of these books and documents and so strengthen the history of Sourp Magar. My worry is that people will just say: 'Oh yes, everybody says that but there is no evidence'. The stronger the history, and the more rich the old historical sources are, the stronger the case for the protection, preservation and eventual restoration of Sourp Magar. I guess we agree there? I hope to continue the discussion later.

Everything that I wrote for the community is well-researched. There is not much information about the Coptic period. However, 1425 is certain. Again, there is no need to torture history. Neo ^ 08:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neo ^ (talk • contribs)

I would be really interested to know the original source for 1425, most helpful for my own research.

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