Talk:South High School (Torrance, California)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Notable alumni

Various editors keep adding alumni, some of whom should be on there and some of whom shouldn't. Here's what the guideline says:

All alumni information must be referenced. See Wikipedia:Footnoting for technical help. Individual alumni need a citation a) to verify that they did indeed attend the school and b) to verify the statement of their notability in their short one or two line description. If an alumnus has their own article in mainspace, then it is not necessary for their notability to be referenced, as long as it is done on their actual page. Be sure to check the existing article to ensure that it demonstrates alumni status with a cited reference.

If you want to add someone to the list, the best bet is to make sure that they have a Wikipedia page of their own. Otherwise, that listing must include a reference that mentions they went to South and gives a reason why they're notable.

Edits by 71.102.113.234

This editor added several alumni to the list, with summaries that included statements like "I added 14 names of notable alumni to the printed list, which seems to have been compiled by students familiar only with recent athletes and entertainers." (here) and "Added names to notable alumni; apparently student compilers knew only athletes and entertainers." (here). I can't say that I'm quite as enamored of this editor's additions as he is; for instance, of the two alumni that he added who I know, both of their graduation years are incorrect. Consequently, if his additions didn't have easily-findable sources, I yanked them.

(FWIW, I'm a South alumnus from a long time ago, so I'm not taking that snark about "student compilers" personally.) Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 03:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

WP isn't the standard for notability. Just because somebody has a WP page doesn't mean they are notable, and just because they don't have a WP doesn't mean they are not notable. Notability is determined in whethter the person has done something significant, and not whether they have a WP page. Anybody can make a WP page on Joe Blow, not making him notable.--gordonrox24 (talk) 12:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, a person having a WP article does mean that they're notable—or at least it should, as not being notable is grounds for the page to be deleted. And while it's absolutely true that there are notable people who don't have articles, that doesn't mean that a list of alumni should include un-cited or incorrect information. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 02:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

So if I were to go an make articles about all of these people, you would be willing to let them stay? I am sure that could be arranged.--gordonrox24 (talk) 22:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

That sounds rather pointy to me, but taking it at face value... go for it! So long as the articles are all based on verifiable reliable sources, and there are sufficient sources to show that each person is notable and that they went to SHS, I'd have no problem with it at all—far from it, in fact.

Here's the list of names removed since January 2007:

• Joe Anzack, Jr.
• James "Bim" Armstrong
• Lance Armstrong
• Rick Astley
• Jon Beleime
• Andy Blair
• Andrew Boeger
• Douglas Brown
• Michael Caston
• Bill Cosby
• Nick Croxton
• Ernest Del (Gutter)
• Jonathan Dixon
• Charles Dickens
• Michael Dowling
• Nick Ekbatani
• Matthew Ferrara
• Nikil Gandhy
• Connor Grouwinkel
• Raymond Hong
• Roger Huyssen
• Derek Jones
• Kyle Lenton
• Andrew Littlefair
• Michael Levanas
• Thomas Mitchell
• Tim Mock
• Steve Port
• Eric Ripley
• Robert Saunders
• Angela Seminario
• Harry E. Sloan
• Steve Smith
• Squirrel Master
• Jack Stewart
• Shelley Lessin Stockwell
• Mr. T
• Eric Thomas
• Lauren Tremblay
• Widrow Wilson

I'm sure at least some of these 40 were added as jokes/hoaxes, but if you're willing to create all these articles, I'm sure you'll be able to figure out which are which.

Have fun! Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 00:27, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Existing listings

Of the current alums listed (all of whom have WP pages), many or most of them do not mention on their own page that they went to South. Per the last line quoted above, they all should in order to be included here. In fact, Bobby Blotzer's page says he went to Torrance High. How about we clean up the list of already-included alumni before we go adding more? Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 03:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, Juan Croucier would appear to also have gone to Torrance High rather than South (neither he nor Blotzer are in my 1974 yearbook).--NapoliRoma (talk) 05:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Catchment Area for Students is wrong.

I went to South High School, graduating in 2010, and I was south of Lomita Blvd. According to article, this would mean that I should not have gone there. This is obviously wrong, as in addition both main feeder middle schools for South High are below Lomita Blvd. I do not know, however, where the exact line south is (most likely at the border with Palos Verdes and Redondo Beach. Any input? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.206.129.93 (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll look into it. ȸ (talk) 21:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)