Talk:South West Norfolk in the 2024 United Kingdom general election

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• ... that former UK prime minister Liz Truss's loss of her constituency South West Norfolk, in the 2024 United Kingdom general election, was described as the "Portillo moment" of the year?

• Source: "It’s the Portillo moment of 2024. Liz Truss sensationally lost her safe South West Norfolk seat this morning, less than two years after serving as prime minister." [1]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Jane Patterson

Created by Sionk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 39 past nominations.

Sionk (talk) 18:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC).

• Not a review but more of a comment, but given how international readers may not know what a Portillo moment is, it might be better to propose a hook about how Truss was the first former prime minister in about 90 years to lose her seat, as I think that's a more impressive and eyecatching fact. It's currently not in the article, but it was widely reported in the media (and it's also an easily verifiable "first" hook so it should be safe unlike other recent "first" hooks) and so it might work better as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sionk: I'm going ahead and proposing the wording; the fact still needs to be mentioned in the article and perhaps some clarification should be made on when it last happened and how long it has been since then.

ALT1 ... that Liz Truss became the first former UK prime minister since 1935 to lose their seat when she lost her constituency South West Norfolk, in the 2024 United Kingdom general election?

• Source: "In losing to Labour, Truss became the first former occupant of No. 10 to lose their seat since Ramsay McDonald lost Seaham in 1935." [2]

Frankly I don't think the original hook will work to a broad audience, particularly to readers outside the UK. Pinging TheBritinator for help regarding article content and hook accuracy (but not for reviewing) given their interest in Britain and familiarity with British politics. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree. I don't think the original hook is really makes a lot of sense to anyone outside of the UK, even then it definitely assumes that people know what the phrasing is. I would say ALT1 is better, but that is also a bit vague. From what I remember, the last former prime minister to loose their seat was Ramsay McDonald in the 1935 United Kingdom general election, but might need to double-check that. If so, it would make sense for the 90 year part. Hope this helps. TheBritinator (talk) 00:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Good suggestion. Happy to go with Alt 1, I've added the fact to the article with a reputable national news source. Sionk (talk) 12:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Full review still needed. I've made a slight modification to ALT1 and struck the original hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)