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Hague and Soyuz MS-10
editIn the Crew section of the article, Hague's experience with the Soyuz MS-10 abort probably warrants more than a hat-note mention. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 08:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hat note is copied from his 2nd spaceflight or 1st proper spaceflight.@Sdsds —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 16:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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Butch and Sunni returning
editGot an old format from shuttle to add "landing astronaut" but I think it broke, can someone fix it? Thanks. 84.121.249.190 (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Crew assignments
editI’ve done my best to include the latest reporting on the crew assignments in the article. While it’s clear that the Russian astronaut will fly, who will be in mass seat is still accordingly undecided, or at least subject to some discussion still. In the Saturday news conference clear that they were not ready to announce who is going to fly. I keep putting the name down as TBD. My edits keep getting reverted by an IP editor. I just want to start a discussion here before being accused of edit warring or violating the 3RR. Just trying to be factually accurate. RickyCourtney (talk) 02:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree "TBD" is the correct thing to put at this time, but I think it would be sensible to add "(Zena Cardman, Nick Hague, or Stephanie Wilson)". Jess_Riedel (talk) 20:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you so sure that Gorbunov will remain in the crew? After all the nasty things these countries have done to each other, they can break any agreements. 212.69.113.149 (talk) 12:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Another point of discussion: While I fully expect that Gorbunov will ride in the pilot's seat during launch, I think there is a chance he will still be called a mission specialist due to political considerations. There's also a chance he may not be in the pilot's seat during landing. So, at this point, I think it would be safest to continue to list him as a mission specialist.
If he ends up in the pilot's seat during launch, that will be historic. While Americans have assisted in the operation of the Soyuz spacecraft for decades, he will be the first Russian to assist in the operation of an American spacecraft. Due to the layout of the Dragon and the Shuttle, only the Commander and Pilot have access to the controls. So, while previous cosmonauts received simulator training, they were just along for the ride when launch day came. In this launch, Gorbunov will be at the controls. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
In degraded mode I believe the pilot has a role. I am not sure that Dragon can fly without a pilot to cover the management of the vehicle systems in case of major failure of some subsystems. Hektor (talk) 20:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Right. I fully expect that Gorbunov will ride in the pilot's seat during launch, with the spacecraft operating duties of the pilot, I'm just not sure that NASA will give him the titular rank of Pilot during the mission. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 20:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- NASA has confirmed him as pilot... and corrected their press release 30 minutes later. Hektor (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. I take that as tacit acknowledgement that Gorbunov will ride in the pilot's seat during launch, with the spacecraft operating duties of the pilot, without the titular rank of Pilot. Unfortunately we can't write anything with tacit acknowledgements. *sigh* Hopefully NASA will have another news conference in the coming days that will provide more details. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- NASA has confirmed him as pilot... and corrected their press release 30 minutes later. Hektor (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Three-revert rule avoid
edit@RickyCourtney I have cleared my stance of NASA Kennedy flickr images not being under copyright violation at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_RickyCourtney, so i want to seek your permission to replace the ricky's crew portrait (inspired from my crop) with another crop that I made from a NASA Kennedy image that is being reverted. I don't want to fall under WP:Three-revert rule.
@Ven123Wiki asking your permission too as you reverted it. —🪦NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 05:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’d suggest we let the image license issue get settled on Commons first. The currently image, while not perfect, is perfectly fine for now. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Voice your views there @RickyCourtney then. Till date we distinguished and used SpaceX images post cco lisense expiry like this only. If there's "Use NASA image use policy" means it's PD-NASA lisenced and it's not at all under the discussion you started. Btw Till something is found guilty, it remains on en-wiki. If my image is still guilty, proved and deleted, the Wikipedia deleted image remover bot will replace it with previous image that is your crop. —🪦NΛSΛ B1058 (TALK) 06:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed @RIP B1058 and @RickyCourtney. Lets not do edit-warring and agree on one stance. This is not about who has the best or latest edit. Its about the best info for the readers. Lets not fight this and keep it as it is.
- FYI- @RickyCourtney, SpaceX does use SpX on some mission and capsule names. Its a term I knew so its alright if anyone else didn't. Ven123Wiki (talk) 13:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, SpX is more of a NASA thing, as they use the abbreviation the most, usually in cargo mission names, “CRS SpX-31” to distinguish them from the other contractors like “CRS NG-21”. Similar to how NASA has its own naming convention for Soyuz and Progress missions. But my bigger issue was that the way it way it was written made it sound like some Dragon 1 missions landed in the Atlantic/Gulf, which would be factually incorrect. RickyCourtney (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Lets just keep it the way it is. Its also sometimes confusing so we can avoid using it. Ven123Wiki (talk) 03:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, SpX is more of a NASA thing, as they use the abbreviation the most, usually in cargo mission names, “CRS SpX-31” to distinguish them from the other contractors like “CRS NG-21”. Similar to how NASA has its own naming convention for Soyuz and Progress missions. But my bigger issue was that the way it way it was written made it sound like some Dragon 1 missions landed in the Atlantic/Gulf, which would be factually incorrect. RickyCourtney (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Precise time?
editThis page has a really precise time (2 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, 18 seconds (in progress)) but it doesn't update. I thought maybe someone was using an auto-updating template I didn't know about but even when I reload the page the time stays the same. I'm thinking we should just be accurate down to the day and have a bot or someone update it every 24 hours.
Thanks, Titan(moon)003 (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- We use the time interval template to calculate that. It generates the elapsed time the first time you load the page. However, the data can be a bit “sticky” as your browser will cache it for faster access in the future. So it may not refresh on a quick reload. We can remove the seconds to make that a little less noticeable, but it is updating in real time as users access the page. RickyCourtney (talk) 14:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)