Talk:Spanish invasion of Portugal (1762)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Hispanicultur in topic No sense to split

Why is this an invasion???

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An 'invasion' as in conquering Almeida? That's not an invasion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.136.74.100 (talk) 09:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Spanish invasion failure

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The Spanish clearly tried to invade Portugal and failed. Their only successes was during the initial border crossing and at Almeida after this they were met with defeat. At Valencia De Alcantara a British counter attack defeated Spanish troops and later on again at Vila-Velha. The Spanish attacked Marvão and Ouguela were repelled also. The Spanish had difficulty in traversing Portugal which delayed their advance as well problems with coordinating with the French army. The weather helped to contribute as floods caused more delays. The fact that the Anglo Portuguese forces were able to counter march any Spanish advance and were always able to have good defensive positions forcing the Spanish to hesitate on any assaults or pitched battles. Therefore the Portuguese and British forces clearly had the advantage despite being outnumbered. --Bruich (talk) ) 17:44, 13 August 2010 (GMT)

Using Portuguese Wikipedia as a source

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In the section ==The Franco-Spanish Ultimatum== in the paragraph starting with "Both Bourbon powers..." there is this reference: [1] which is a link to the Portuguese Wikipedia. This should not really be used as a reference but a Wikilink, per Wikipedia:verifiability#Wikipedia and sources that mirror or use it.

  1. ^ Carvalhosa, Manuel F. Barros (Viscount of Santarém) – Quadro Elementar das Relações Políticas e Diplomáticas de Portugal, Tome VI, Paris, 1850, p. XVI.

Jodosma (talk) 12:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

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It is by far the most chauvinist and propagandist Portuguese article in Wikipedia.

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Although the article is of good sources, it is focused in a very pernicious way to humiliate Spain only, largely ignoring France. It does not seem at all an informative and impartial article.

It almost seems Portuguese nationalist propaganda to satisfy the existential deficiencies and crises of the Lusitanian nationalists or a kind of revenge attempt because this event is quite unknown.

It is quite evident when you see the huge number of citations used for the Results section, which has even destabilized the Info Box. Or the huge number of sections there are, some of which just to present a brief appointment. And the article focuses on implying that Spain was decisively defeated and destroyed when the reality is that in just 29 years after Spain invaded Portugal again and successfully in the War of the Oranges, whose consequences today are permanent due to Olivença.

Do not get me wrong, I do not say that this article is a lie, I think it is correct, but the way it is narrated, structured and directed is terrible and very unilateral against Spain. JamesOredan (talk) 11:04, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

No sense to split

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It makes no sense to split or condense the article. It describes a war that unfolded in three invasions, and involved the troops of 4 nations, besides the guerrillas.Hispanicultur (talk) 22:10, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply