Talk:Spartacus League

What is the "Spartacist Manifesto"? Where is the quote from?

The quote from the "Spartacist Manifesto" is until now not credible: What is meant by the "Spartacist Manifesto"? Where was it published? When? [[1]] refers (on page 37) to an article of the 26 November 1918 issue of Die Rote Fahne as the "Spartacist Manifesto". The article it reprints actually appeared one day before (see [[2]]), but it does not contain the quote used here in the article. Mr.john.murphy (talk) 11:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Found it! The quote is from the article "Die Nationalversammlung" by Rosa Luxemburg, in the 20 November 1918 issue of Die Rote Fahne (see [[3]], p. 2, or in English: [[4]]). So this is not at all from something like a "Spartacist Manifesto". Unfortunately, as a new user I can not edit the article yet.. Mr.john.murphy (talk) 12:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Historical mistake

The Spartacist League was never the "german afiliate to the Comintern", simply because the Comintern did not yet exist! It was already the KPD who was a founding membver of the III International, in March,1919.

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Why no mention of the fact that Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt called himself 'Spartacus'. Too many naive, un-analytical dissemniations of modern history going about!

Because Spartacus is a historical figure, not simply a pseudonym used by multiple people. It is also not Wikipedia's job to investigate "links" between the Illuminati and communism. Your question is, frankly, laughable. Commissarusa (talk) 22:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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Spartacus is the German equivalent of the Russian Bolsheviks, maybe even closer to the Mensheviks, but not a word about the ethnicity of those involved in Spartacus, that being the Jews. To read revised history from a page lacking such disclosure, one would think there were no Jews in Germany doing anything other than tending stores till the Nazis decided to go after them. It's imperative that Jewish involvements with Communist, Spartacus, the Russian communist connections be exposed to understand the ability of the Nazis to inspire such strong anti-Semitism in the German population, to understand the rise of Hitler to power, and how his target was almost exclusively political, and at first confined to Communist and International Bankers, who happened to be Jewish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.134.154.47 (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Possible error

If the Spartakusbund completely became the KPD in December 1918, why are they referred to as Spartacists in the rest of the article and during their uprisng? Surely they should be referred to as communists. GoliathX 17:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The attempted revolution in 1919 was still known as the Spartacus Uprising, the name change notwithstanding. White Guard 02:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

So when referring to the Spartacists post-November 1918, should they be described as the KPD or the Spatacists? I learnt that the Spartacists were eliminated after the insurrection, but the KPD continued to be a political party for years after that. GoliathX 07:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

It's one of history's more subtle transitions; but the Spartacist League might be said to have died with the failure of the rising of January 1919 and the subsequent murders of Leibnecht and Luxemburg. By the spring of 1919 it is more correct to refer to the KPD. White Guard 21:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Image

I tried to sort out what's going on with that image and why it won't move over, but I can't figure it out. Can anyone else? matt91486 02:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible POV

The article reads as if written from a far-left point of view: in the introduction, the right wing of the SPD is referred to as 'autocratic', the Freikorps as 'proto-fascist'. While I don't necessarily disagree, these sorts of statements at the very least need to be supported by footnotes! --Helmold (talk) 19:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Possible Bias

The author of the section about the Freikorps crushing the revolution refers to them as being under the control of 'the government'. Is it not true that the SL claimed control of Berlin as a self-governing and autonomous Communist Soviet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.2.48 (talk) 02:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move

Would it not be better to call this page 'Spartacus League'. It's a direct translation from the German word Spartakusbund, it's what's they called themselves (as in Luxemburg's What does Spartacus stand for?) and it would avoid the disambiguation with the modern US Trotskyist group.Haldraper (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2015

The article incorrectly suggests that Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated in 1917. Eberhard Kolb in his monograph The Weimar Republic, considered the essential text on the period, cites that the Kaiser abdicated on November 9th, 1918 on page 243, the first page of his chronology. His formal abdication followed an informal announcement by then-chancellor Prince Max of Baden that he was stepping down earlier in the day. (Kolb, 20)

Ucbhistoryundergrad (talk) 02:48, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 11:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Article completely redone from German language version

Most if not all of the previous talk points will have been superseded by the complete rewrite from the German language version done on 13 April 2022.

GHStPaulMN (talk) 18:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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