Talk:Special Envoy on Intelligence and Law Enforcement Data Sharing

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(moved from User talk:Widefox) Hello widefox, since you're interested in the June 2017 London attacks, I'm wondering whether you have article-rename privileges, and if so, whether you can please rename Special envoy on intelligence and law-enforcement data-sharing to Special Envoy on intelligence and law-enforcement data-sharing, note the capitalisation on the second word. TIA Spem Reduxit (talk) 02:50, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

No, see Diplomatic rank#Special envoy - lowercase. Moving this to the talk for all to comment. p.s. best to use WP:AFC to prevent deletion next time. Widefox; talk 03:09, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

In the UK, Special Envoy is capitalised, please see the gov.uk pages in the article reflist. The page to which you direct me is a general (global) page with dozens of countries listed and can afford little insight into the problem at hand. Spem Reduxit (talk) 03:20, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Which is irrelevant, See MOS:JOBTITLES - we spell per Wikipedia standards (and anyhow take secondary sources over primaries - see WP:COMMONNAME). I recommend using WP:AFC to get more feedback next time, and help prevent deletion. Widefox; talk 03:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

This is all too complex for me. Eg: from MOS:JOBTITLES "When the correct formal title is treated as a proper name (e.g., King of France; it is correct to write Louis XVI was King of France but Louis XVI was the French king)". Whatever you say. Thanks for your help! Spem Reduxit (talk) 03:42, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, this title may be a proper noun, but that would be for all of it, so I'd want to see what (secondary) sources say the title is, else it may just a common "special envoy". Until there's several secondaries it shouldn't be created IMHO. Drafting or AFC helps that, once live others can edit mercilessly. Widefox; talk 03:51, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Also Malcolm Rifkind#Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee see MOS:LWQ - this article shouldn't be linked from inside the quote - removed. Widefox; talk 03:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@Spem Reduxit: Widefox; talk 11:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

"why would you delete a link to this article in Malcolm Rifkind as per MOS:LWQ and then immediately add an {{orphan}} tag here? I'm genuinely puzzled. ". See above. If there's no place in the prose to link, it can put a link in the See also. Widefox; talk 11:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)