Talk:Sportswear

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Functional

Shouldn't it be added somewhere that in sportswear, the most important aspect of the clothing is functional? (in hot weather staying cool, in cold weather staying warm, and definately not creating drag while swimming, running, riding or otherwise getting in the way.) Jon 01:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Jockstrap

Is this picture really neccessary? It came as a bit of a shock when the page loaded... Tombrabbin 23:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Agree that it is not really suitable as the only picture in the article. What about a footballer or tennis player instead? Itsmejudith 13:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Definitely the picture has to go.. cros13 02:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

bal bal bal  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.184.14 (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC) 

Article name

Just come back to this article. I can't quite believe that I started it and it has developed so well. It's really not anything I know about at all (the nearest I get to sport is hiking); I just started it because there was an obvious gap. I can understand the split between this article and Sportswear (fashion) but wonder if it wouldn't be even better to call this article Activewear, thus releasing Sportswear for fashion. It isn't a stub any more. Itsmejudith (talk) 19:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

21st Century Activewear

I'm removing this section. This page should be dedicated to describing the purpose and function of sportswear, not to high school level essays on likening sport to pornography. 78.128.199.109 (talk) 17:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

While I won't be reverting your edits (I feel that student editor User:Jdearborn should have the chance to decide how to handle this appropriately, and learn from the experience) I will just comment on the sources, which I would not consider "high school level essays". The sources, despite being incorrectly formatted (which I tried to explain on the editor's talk page), appear to be valid sources such as a 2008 media report, an university thesis from the State University of New York (which would have had to undergo highly critical reviewing, assessment, and verification processes before being cleared), an essay from an scholarly journal, and two focussed articles from the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times. There is no problem with the sources in themselves. The problem is with the actual text of the addition, which did seem fixated on the idea of nudity, body image and sexuality, rather than actually dealing with sportswear, and appeared barely relevant to an article on activewear. However, because Jdearborn was doing this as a student editor, I felt it was fair to give them a chance to receive appropriate peer reviews and tutor's feedback before actually doing anything to their edits. Mabalu (talk) 00:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Only women pictured?

Currently the only people pictured in sportswear are female. It would seem illustrative (and less creepy) if there were men pictured as well? 109.156.67.12 (talk) 11:37, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

This is a good point. I added some images of men, which also serve to illustrate different types / uses of clothing in other sports. --David Edgar (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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Self-evident stub. Top-importance because this is a major apparel category. Daniel Case 03:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Substituted at 18:09, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 22 May 2018

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No consensus. Don't see general agreement to move this page with three supporters of Sportswear as primary topic, one specifically opposed to that title and one opposed to "any other move". As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their args and try again in a few months to garner consensus for a new title. Also please consider that suggesting a specific title is generally more successful than using a question mark as the suggested move. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover)  Painius  ^put'r there  01:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Sportswear (activewear) → ? – The article title does not use the appropriate parenthetical disambiguation per WP:DABRELATED. 2601:183:101:58D0:E02E:6B0B:CE85:A39C (talk) 19:23, 22 May 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane ^talk 06:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

• Move to Sportswear with a hatnote pointing to Sportswear (fashion). This is the primary topic, certainly internationally. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose move to Sportswear. No clear WP:PTOPIC. Page views in last 30 days 8,820 for activewear (70%), 3,793 for fashion (30%).

Oppose any other move. The lead begins, "Sportswear or activewear...", making the qualifier (activewear) entirely appropriate. Narky Blert (talk) 16:33, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

How about moving the page to Activewear? It already redirects there. --2601:183:101:58D0:797F:2F90:EE05:5594 (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Solution in search of a problem, that's why. We editors are here to help readers. Narky Blert (talk) 00:00, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguators are supposed to be clear. "Activewear" is far from clear, given I suspect most people would be unaware what the hell it meant. Maybe this is an ENGVAR issue, but even so, disambiguators need to be clear to everyone. As for being primary or not, I think in most countries "sportswear" primarily means "wear for sports", not "clothes that look a bit like wear for sports but aren't really"! Maybe this isn't the case in America, but I'm pretty sure it is elsewhere. The Sportswear (fashion) article even begins: "Sportswear is an American fashion term..." -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:39, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

• Move to Sportswear. Clear primary topic, given that it's actually used for sports, and the Sportswear (fashion) term is unheard of outside of America. The current title looks like one of those composites of two alternative names, a bit like football (soccer) used to be many years ago. Generally we don't do that, and we shouldn't be doing it here either.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
• Actually, sportswear is a term used to describe fashions from Italy and the UK, and was exhibited in the London V&A Museum, so it's hardly "unheard of outside of America". Having said that, I have no real objection to sportswear with a hatnote for sportswear (fashion) as suggested by User:Necrothesp. Mabalu (talk) 00:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
• Move to Sportswear. It's the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in a WP:TWODABS situation.[1] Sportswear in fashion can be found just as easily through a hat note.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Requested move 15 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved to Sportswear. (closed by non-admin page mover) —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 09:11, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Sportswear (activewear) → Activewear – Activewear already redirects here and the title could be more concise. Interstellarity (talk) 00:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 17:02, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Sportswear with a hatnote pointing to Sportswear (fashion). This is the primary topic and the common name, certainly internationally. Who on earth calls it activewear? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Sportswear per WP:COMMON and WP:PRIMARY and per Necrothesp. Timrollpickering (Talk) 15:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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