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From French "Espraindre"?

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I was curious to see this reference. I'm speaking French, English is second language for me. I did a quick search on my French dictionnary for this word "espraindre" and didn't find it. So i magically googled it and found quite a few references (like etymonline) that mention

a connection has been suggested to M.Fr. espraindre "to press out," from L. exprimere, but the sense evolution is difficult.

Looking for french Texts that contains this word, i found Le ménagier, POREE DE BETTES and most interresting Le "Triomphe d'Henri": étude lexicologique et métalexicologique. Those references, amongst others, seems to point that "Espraindre" is from old french (around 1600). The word to wring in French is currently "tordre". In some conditions (to wring someone's hands) we can use the verb "étreindre". I don't know if it's a natural evolution of "Espraindre".

Anyway, we should not let English readers think the translation of "to wring" is "Espraindre" in current French.

Tchize 11:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Many English words are derived from archaic Norman French. After the 1066 invasion, England was a dual language country for two centuries, with the aristocracy speaking a version of French. After that the languages slowly merged, resulting in the chaotic mixture that is modern English. --Ef80 (talk) 18:11, 6 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Cleanup

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Cleaned up an odd formatting or badly edited page issue. Though in the process I took out a clean-up tag. I've re-inserted the clean-up tag. I hope I didn't take out anything else important? Looked like there was a botched gallery/image tag that wasn't doing anything... Anyway, more clean-up is needed. Definitely. Mgmirkin 21:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Can you give me more information about it ? Krima madhikarmi (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Reliable source?

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I moved the following statement to here, because it feel uncertain; Is the source consistent with wp:MEDRS? Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

After any sprain, proper rehabilitation is a must; especially when the injury has been severe. After acute treatment, a rehabilitation program is critical in speeding recovery of the joint. Lack of rehabilitation can often delay return to normal function for months.:
- Sprain and Strain details Dreddy Clinic. Retrieved on 2010-01-26

Uses of heat?

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This and the Cold compression therapy article seem to reflect current thinking available via google (ie, heat only during rehab after 3 days when swelling subsides), but could some historical context for R.I.C.E. be supplied? I seem to remember it wasnt long ago that alternating cold with hot was the fashion, and outdated treatments are surely within the scope of an encylopedia. Sparafucil (talk)

Use of the word "affected."

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I believe this word is incorrect. While "affect" is usually a verb and "effect" is the noun, in this case I believe "effected" is correct. See this definition: "Effected - Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puredoubt (talkcontribs) 07:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

I only see two instances of the word "affected" in the article, and both are correct. They talk about a joint which has been affected by an injury, not a joint which is effecting an injury. RobinHood70 talk 14:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Factual errors and omissions in this piece

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Given the clinical ubiquity of this injury, the wiki article is surprisingly brief and littered with inaccuracies. For example, first-degree sprains do not involve any tearing of the ligament, just over stretching. Similarly, under the 'Diagnosis' section, MRI scans are not routinely ordered for suspected sprains, particularly where X-ray imaging has ruled out any fracture. I have corrected these obvious errors, but is there anyone prepared to work on this article - I will do as much as I can. Fortnum (talk) 22:38, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply