Talk:Spur

Errors

There are some erors on the spurs page. Prince of wales spurs pictured are not. The shank on a POW spur is always offset and when worn on the heel lay against the flank of the horse all the time. This style of spur came from the design of the spur for use by the Prince of Wales who was a very large short person who had problems turning his leg into the horse to effectively use his spur. The eyelet for the straps of the POW spur is always rounded.

German spurs have the shank comming straight out to the rear of the spur. To use this spur you have to turn your leg into the horse to affect a response. This is the best idea because with a POW a horse can become so used to the spur that it has no real affect, unless over used. The eyelet of a German spur is always square. You should only have rowelled spurs both smooth and serated on German Spurs.Andy mccune (talk) 12:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to fix the errors, that is fine. Go for it!  ;-) Montanabw^(talk) 15:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

While all of this information is certainly valid and helpful, there is no error correction without sourcing, and this is of particular concern here because of this article's vast ocean of cribbed, unsourced text. Replacing one unsubstantiated statement with another is counter to WP policies. For all corrections, please indeed proceed, but do so with source in hand, and with a commitment to add that source as a new reference. If you are not familiar with WP editing, place the information you wish added/substituted, along with the source(s), and if we can check the source(s), other editors can make the change(s) for you. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 16:47, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Meanwhile the 2 points marked in the text as dubious. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 18:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

No occurrences of German spurs were found. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Here is limited 1911 Encycl Britann content...

So that further inline citations to this can be added. While this may not be strictly necessary by WP policy standards, in this case it is the only thing that will allow disambiguation of unsourced text, separating sourced from EB, but appearing unsourced from truly unsourced, and potentially plagiarized material. It is for this reason, the text is supplied here, and the tag regarding need for further footnotes is added to the opening of the article (for removal, once this and the remaining citations already in place are fully plumbed for the content derived from them).

SPUR (A.S.' spura, spora, related to spornan, spurnan, to kick, spurn; cf. M.H.G. sporn, mod. Ger. Sporn), an instrument attached to the heel of a rider's boot for the purpose of goading the horse. The earliest form of the horseman's spur armed the heel with a single prick. In England the rowel spur is shown upon the first seal of Henry III., but it does not come into general use until the 14th century. In the 15th century spurs appear with very long shanks, to reach the horse's flank below the outstanding bards. After this time, and until the beginning of the modern period of costume at the Restoration, they take many decorative forms, some of which remain in the great spurs worn by Mexican cavaliers. Gilded spurs were reckoned the badge of knighthood, and in the rare cases of ceremonious degradation they were hacked from the knight's heels by the cook's chopper. After the battle of Courtrai, in 1302, the victors hung up bushels of gilt spurs in the churches of Courtrai and Maestricht as trophies of what is still remembered by the Flemings as the Goudensporendag. For another reason the English named the French rout beside Thbrouanne as the Battle of Spurs.

This reference will be added momentarily, and as I add inline citations, I will strike through text here that has been identified in the WP article text, for which inline citations now appear. I will also note the process as "done", when completed. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 16:36, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Further images of potential use

• Frederick V, on horseback, see [1]

See this page, showing an 11th-12th century bronze spur that is clearly built to hold a revolving piece. https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=268533Paul Siraisi (talk) 01:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Stray sentence removal

The following sentences are presently being removed to footnotes, with a view toward eventual likely deletion:

• "In the history of veterinary science, the word "rowel" described a small disk of leather or other material that was used as a seton stitch."

71.239.87.100 (talk) 18:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Changes

Before an anon IP makes over 50 edits to an article and tag-bombs it, let's discuss and maybe have limited cn tags prior to rearranging the whole thing to the point that the changes are incomprehensible. Mass revert appropriate in this case. Let's discuss article structure and citation rather than just messing it up so bad it's difficult to determine what problem actually existed. Per WP:BRD, let's discuss. Montanabw^(talk) 04:47, 17 October 2014 (UTC)