Talk:Squatting in Peru

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GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 00:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello again! I will get to this within seven days. Please note that I am returning to GA reviewing after an hiatus, so please WP:TROUT me if I make a mistake. Thanks, ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 00:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, that should be all! I have placed this article on hold for now. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 03:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi LunaEatsTuna that's a nice surprise! I'll let you know when I've answered the comments, cheers Mujinga (talk) 10:10, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

LunaEatsTuna thanks for the helpful comments! I hope I've answered everything to your satisfaction. Mujinga (talk) 10:59, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Indeed you most certainly have! Pleased now to pass this article for GA status. Congrats! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 15:28, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Copyvio

Earwig says good to go.

Files

Good to go; both File:Lima PuebloJov 4.jpg and File:5000 year-old ruins, Caral (2399575332 819f998cd5 o).jpg are on Commons and CC-BY SA.

Prose

• "land invasions to create shanty towns first called" – wikilink shanty towns.

  done Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• "then the government tolerated them" – I would add a year or year range of when squatters started becoming tolerated by the government.

  It seems to have been a gradual process so I added "gradually" and moved a sentence to maintain the chronology. Does that work? Mujinga (talk) 10:56, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  Andrews and Phillips say: The first invasions in the 1940s and 1950s met with police resistance and violence. The squatters kept coming back, however, with active encouragement from liberal social and religious groups, and with increasing acceptance from a relatively progressive national government. Since 1961, the government has called off the army and sent in planners from the National Housing Authority to facilitate later installation of utilities.

  Bobic says: These croppers grew increasingly disgruntled with the inequitable distribution of wealth and power and during the 1950s hundreds of thousands of them seized hacienda lands and began to farm illegally. Government efforts to control these invasions were hampered by poor coordination and a pitifully small police force, so for the most part the farm owners and "squatters" came to an uneasy truce.

  Okay I see! That works.

• "Peruvian law states" do the sources say whether this is a specific clause/law/act that governs this?

  The Encyclopedia of Homelessness just says: A peculiarity in Peruvian law provides that people who occupy state-owned land and remain there for twenty-four hours, with no formal complaint being lodged, cannot be evicted immediately. Rather, they can apply for legal title to the land and the case will be decided in court. The same provision applies to occupiers of private land. If such land has been undeveloped for ten years or more, the court is likely to give title to the invaders Mujinga (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  Noted.

• "publicly owned land" change to "publicly-owned land" – compound modifier.

  Interesting one - I'm not sure if there's a US-Eng/Br-Eng thing going on here and I couldn't find a definitive answer, but "publicly-owned" looks wrong to me. APA says use a hyphen only if the word can be misinterpreted ie it's ambiguous. In any case due to the source saying it also applies to private land, I've rewritten :) Mujinga (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  I see!

• Wikilink legal title for unfamiliar readers.

  done Mujinga (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Haciendas should be italicised for consistency with other Spanish terms.

  done Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Italicise barriadas.

  done Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Change instances of % to percent (or per cent) per WP:%.

  done Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• "On 28 July 1990 (Peruvian Independence Day)" – was this day purposefully chosen? If so, I would rephrase it to something like "On 28 July 1990, to coincide with Peruvian Independence Day," etc.

  Done Mujinga (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Move the image of Caral up a bit otherwise it collides with the references section.

  Done Mujinga (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Passes spotcheck on Refs 4, 6, 8 and 10.

• Refs 10 and 11 are missing publication dates.

  Well spotted, added Mujinga (talk) 10:20, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 13:48, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that by 1998, around 2.5 million inhabitants of Lima, out of a total population of over 6.8 million, were squatting? Source: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/dpu-projects/Global_Report/pdfs/Lima.pdf
  • ALT1: ... that during the COVID-19 pandemic, squatters took advantage of the lockdowns to squat at Caral and Nazca Lines, both of which are World Heritage Sites? Source: https://phys.org/news/2021-01-oldest-city-americas-threat-squatters.html , https://www.reuters.com/article/us-peru-nazca-squatters-idUSBRE87E0R520120815
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/59th Street–Columbus Circle station

Improved to Good Article status by Mujinga (talk) and LunaEatsTuna (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Squatting in Peru; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: GA article. Hook could use some spicing up, but is okay. --evrik ^(talk) 03:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

• Onegreatjoke and evrik: Question from a quick parse of the source: this doesn't seem to back up the idea that shanty towns consist only or mainly of squatters? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:32, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
• Onegreatjoke Can you answer this first? --evrik ^(talk) 22:20, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not too sure about shanty towns. The wikipedia article does say that "A typical shanty town is squatted" and statements saying this are cited in the wiki article. I'll see if @Mujinga: knows anything but if the hook isn't viable then we could do

  • Alt2 "... that the Shining Path used squatting as a tactic to gain support during the internal conflict in Peru?"

Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

• theleekycauldron --evrik ^(talk) 02:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
  • Up to you to assess new hooks, evrik, you're the reviewer :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

• Alt 2 approved. --evrik ^(talk) 01:32, 6 June 2023 (UTC)