Talk:Squizzy Taylor
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John Cudmore or Cutmore?
editI believe the character associated with Squizzy Taylor was John, known as "Snowy", Cutmore AYAu 03:10, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- john snowy cuttmore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.172.2 (talk • contribs) 23 April 2008
Great stuff! But completely unsourced ...
editIn the "Death" section, an IP editor has added (and I have removed):
- Squizzy’s downfall came in sensational circumstances during a shoot out with Sydney rival John Daniel ‘Snowy’ Cutmore (Coburg Cemetery) on 27 October 1927 at 50 Barkly Street, Carlton. The circumstances of the shooting have become shrouded in mystery even though the coroner settled the matter by finding a simple fatal gun duel between two opposing criminals. This was in spite of the Eibar “Destroyer” .32 calibre used to shoot Squiz being found under the picket fence of a house in McArthur Square some 200 paces from the house while the Melbourne Truth contended that three more bullets than what could have been discharged by the revolvers of Cutmore and Taylor were fired. Were Squiz and Cutmore knocked off in one go?
My comments:
- I love it!
- I want to include it!!
But ..
- Where did it come from?
- I'm afraid WP is an encyclopaedia - not a tabloid newspaper, nor a pulp fiction novel.
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Sensational / Promotional Tone Indicates POV Issue
editThis article is rife with tabloid news story and peacock language that sensationalizes rather than describes the subject; alongside unreferenced factual material in the long newsy lead (not appearing in the main body) and various other clear factual statements without citation, I am led to tag it as a POV and multiple issues matter. LeProf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.179.92.36 (talk) 20:12, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Authoritative, well-referenced ANU obituary, apparent source of colorful plagiarized lead material
editThe following web citation is to the entry for Joseph Leslie Taylor at an Australian obituary site managed by Australian National University. It is an authoritative article with links to many news citations. Based on a cursory reading, this obituary appears to be the source of at least some of the colorful language that appears unreferenced (plagiarized) in the lead. (This citation does not appear at all in the wikipedia article.) LeProf.
http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/taylor-joseph-leslie-squizzy-8762
- Isn't the 'authoritative article' that you're referring to simply a cut and paste of the newspaper article from The Argus, 28 October 1927, pp15-16, which is already referred to in the WP article (it is reference no. 1 in the list of references). Hardly a case of plagiarism. Speediegonzales (talk) 13:01, 11 December 2013 (UTC)