Talk:Stéphane Courtois

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Michlusky in topic Atrociously written (or badly translated?)

Controversy section

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Stephane Courtois is a highly controversial historian. Not only for him every communist is a stalinian, but also, he considers anti-fascism or anti-racism as "dangerous". He has collaborated with far-right french revues ("choc du mois"; "nouvelle revue d'histoire"), and has brought his support to Gerard Chauvy, condemn to defamation for having implied that Raymond Aubrac had betrayed Jean Moulin. Raymond Aubrac and his wife are very famous figures of the french resistance. (86.210.8.173 (talk) 20:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC))Reply


Do you have any references for that? If so you might be able to add that. World Views (talk) 22:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Atrociously written (or badly translated?)

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Much of this entry is really poorly written, to the extent that it is in places very hard to tell what is actually meant. Quite possibly parts of it have been roughly translated from French. Consider this sentence, chosen pretty much at random: "The historian Henry Rousso (Vichy, a past that does not pass, 1996) criticized him for simplifying all militant or communist sympathizers as accomplices of the crimes of Stalinism and, by extension, considered all to be conditionally allied with communist forces or with the Soviets as blind accomplices of Stalin." I've had to read that several times to make sense of it. I suggest that a lot of this entry needs to be re-written wholesale.

The entry is also over-long in my opinion and padded out with a lot of unnecessary information (much of it, it seems, intended to support Courtois' own historiographical positions). How much information about Lenin's 1922 is really necessary in an article about an historian (even a controversial one)? On the other hand there are also places - such as the very short section on Gerard Chauvy - that are so lacking in information as to be confusing. Someone needs to attack this entry with both a hatchet and a scalpel, hacking out the great sections of unnecessary digressions and filling in the many points where more basic detail is clearly necessary. But above all, it needs to be translated into good, readable English. 122.58.178.203 (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

@122.58.178.203 Apologies if bumping such an old talk page topic is discourteous, but it is rather odd to read this article in 2024 and see the exact same errors that this user cites. I agree that the article seems bloated like a blowfish in defense of Courtois' questionable research, though I recognize that my ignorance of the specific intellectual context prevents me from making the needed edits myself. Michlusky (talk) 13:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
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