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The page "St. Martin's Chamber Choir" was initially created by Gene McCullough who was at the time a member of the Board of Directors of the choir. He is of the opinion that St. Martin's is of sufficient standing that this seeming conflict of interest is warranted.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene McCullough (talk • contribs) 13:34, 19 May 2011 (UTC+9) (UTC)

Nomination of St. Martin's Chamber Choir for deletion‬

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

(I have not be able to find a more focused place to reply to this. I trust that this will reach Eddie891 and whatever discussion there is about this proposed action.)

Yes, obviously I'm quite concerned about this nomination. Yes, there have been notices posted to the page asking for improvements. I'd like to address them:

• The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies and organizations: St. Martin's Chamber Choir is the only full-time, professional chamber choir in the Rocky Mountain region. Its singers are paid for every rehearsal and for every performance. Its singers are almost to a one professionally trained. Most of them are full-time musicians and/or educators beyond their involvement with St. Martin's. You can read the numerous collaborations. You can read the numerous regional and world premiere performances. You can read about the commissions. The choir has produced 13 CDs, including two on the Toccata Classics label. (toccataclassics.com)
• Regional and world premieres and commissions: These simply are what they are. Before making such a claim, copyright holders and composers are consulted. Commissions are business transactions between the choir and the composer. Are contracts needed to verify these?
• There is a call for references for the biography of the founder and Artistic Director. I'm not sure how one does this if there hasn't been a biography published in journal or book form. This bio sketch appears on the St. Martin's website and in every program. Maestro Krueger is Minister of Music at St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Denver and he is on the faculty of Metropolitan State University of Denver. This bio sketch appears on both of those sites. I'm open to suggestions.
• Another note about notability: There is a page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choirs_in_Colorado which lists numerous choirs around the state. I can find Wikipedia entries for the following on that list:
• The Ars Nova Singers
• The Arvada Chorale
• The Colorado Children's Chorale
• The One World Singers
• The Sound of the Rockies

None of these pages have been tagged with a call for more references. None has had its artistic director's bio sketch tagged as needing references. As one who knows choirs in the area, I will assert that there is only one organization in that group that reaches St. Martin's level of notability, Ars Nova.

So I look forward to a reply from one of Wikipedia's monitors. I'm up for making changes but I feel like what is on the page is justifiable.
Gene McCullough (talk) 06:38, 3 March 2020 (UTC)Gene McCulloughReply

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