Talk:St. Mary's University, Texas/Archive 1

Archive 1

Separate pages for Undergraduate and Law School?

Should we create a separate page for the Law School? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasoncpetty (talk • contribs) 01:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

A separate page does exist see St. Mary's University School of Law for more details. Wolf-013 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki for the school

I just created http://www.stmarytx.ORG, a wiki for the school, and am in the process of building the page. Odessaukrain 03:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The website created by Odessaukrain is duplication of labor, and there is no website. I motion to remove this section from the talk pages, since the website http://www.stmarytx.ORG was never built. Wolf-013 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Logo c3.png

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Section Renamed

I renamed the "Distinguished Graduates" section to "Notable Alumni" to avoid confusion with the actual Distinguished Alumni Award and Distinguished Law Graduate Award given by the Alumni Association and Law Alumni Association.Ranucci (talk) 04:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

No University Seal?

Why hasn't the University seal been included? And further, why is it protected to where the seal cannot be included? Is this more administrator abuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Texaslegal (talk • contribs) 17:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

The article does not appear to be protected, nor has it been in the past; I'm sorry if this does not mesh with your fantasies of abusive administrators. I'd love to field your question about the seal, but I don't really feel like helping you. Kuru (talk) 18:44, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Kuru Would you be willing to assist then, by adding the University seal? Being and admin and all. Apologies for the pestering. Wolf-013 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:20, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

At some point it was protected from uploading images. Thank you for the personal attack and the example of abuse. I'm sure you are proud of yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Texaslegal (talk • contribs) 04:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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Notable Alumni

I added Mary Lynne Gasaway Hill, American poet, writer and professor to the "Notable Alumni" section, and linked it to her Wiki page.

I did want to note my COI with Mary Lynne Gasaway Hill here in the Talk page.

However, I checked the COI rules, and it looks like this edit is in compliance with the guidelines.

Best wishes, Andrewincowtown (talk) 20:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Student Organizations

Overserving the wiki pages for surrounding colleges, there is detailed information about the student organizations, and so I think we should replicate the work done on the University of Texas at San Antonio wiki page. That being said the revisions made by ELKevbo where not helpful in this respect. The notes on the revision, cited the section as unsourced and unessiarily details. The first objection to the section seems to stand, but the latter does not stand up to scrutiny when the UTSA page is observed. Lets talk this out, and if need by collaborate the find sources and structure the format accordingly. Wolf-013 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

And why exactly does an encyclopedia article need a detailed listing of every student organization at this university? That really seems to fall afoul of many of our policies and practices e.g., WP:DUE, WP:NOT, WP:UNIGUIDE.

If you have an objection to the contents of another article, I encourage you to edit that article or open a discussion in that article's Talk page. ElKevbo (talk) 04:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I took a look at the WP:UNIGUIDE, and I found section 6.4 to be the basis of including student organizations, though perhaps it should be rebranded as student life. While an exhaustive list may certainly run astray of the guidelines, I think that the organizations that have a presence on other campuses should be in this section since that would resolve the issue of a overly detailed list by bringing this page into accord with other university pages. Perhaps a replication of the student life section from the University of Texas at San Antonio page. Student life is broken down into four generic sections:

• Residential Life
• Greek Life
• ROTC Programs
• Student Government

With that partition, organization, and replication I think it will bring this page in compliance with other major university sites such as Texas A&M University, Yale University, and Rice University. This would bring it to the guidelines you mentioned and standardize this page with other major wiki pages for universities.

Wolf-013 (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

You have acknowledged that "an exhaustive list may certainly run astray of the guidelines" but you've added the list back into this article. You haven't said anything about WP:DUE and WP:NOT, project-wide policies that govern all articles and clearly discourage this kind of detailed listing. I strongly recommend that you review those policies.

If you want to see some articles that should be models, you should focus on looking at articles that have been specifically judged as being high quality. For articles about U.S. colleges and universities, Georgetown University and Pomona College are good examples as they're both featured articles, the highest quality articles in this project. Note how they don't have a detailed listing of student organizations but instead provide an overview and context for readers. Please remember that this is an encyclopedia for all readers; it is not an extension of the university's websites and publications. ElKevbo (talk) 23:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from, and I hear you. I'll go about editing the student life section to mirror that of Georgetown University by formatting and removing specific groups that seem to niche, and move from there. I'd appreciate your help in this regard, I'm no pro at formatting. Wolf-013 (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help. If you'd like, you can draft something in a sandbox and drop me a line if you need any help or would like input. ElKevbo (talk) 01:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Take a look at my sand box, I left a link on my user page I'll work from there and just leave me suggestions on talk page. I'll make a new section for that. Wolf-013 (talk) 02:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

References and Citations

I'm going to go about getting some references for general statements in page, such as the founding date etc. As well working to find those sources, which has proven difficult. I would appreciate help, so if you've got some things that you think should be done first, drop a line here. Wolf-013 (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)