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Minor League
editI took "Minor League" out of the lede, but it's all over the rest of the article. My understanding is that the Saints aren't minor league because they're unaffiliated with MLB. If there aren't any objections in the next couple days (and I remember), I'll remove "minor league" from the rest of the article. Awickert (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- They aren't Minor League or Major League. No objections. (Go Saints!) -Atmoz (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have a few comments based on reading this interesting document [1]: (1) The legal name of "Minor League Baseball" is "National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, Inc." (2) "Minor League Baseball" is not a legal trademark of the NAPBL. Instead, it is what is known as a "common law mark"; that is, it's a name that NAPBL claims rights to because it has used it for many years. The NAPBL does have a registered trademark for "Minor League Baseball and Design." (3) A jury has determined that "minor league baseball" is a "generic" or common term. According to this Website [2], "Generic terms are common words or terms, often found in the dictionary, that identify products and services and are not specific to any particular source. It is not possible to register as a trademark a term that is generic for the goods/services identified in the application." Although I'm not a lawyer, that suggests to me that independent leagues may have the right to describe themselves as "minor league baseball." BRMo (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Huh - I just Googled the Saints and it had "minor league" right there - although I couldn't find it on their website (didn't look too hard). All right, I'll put it back in. Awickert (talk) 03:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have a few comments based on reading this interesting document [1]: (1) The legal name of "Minor League Baseball" is "National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, Inc." (2) "Minor League Baseball" is not a legal trademark of the NAPBL. Instead, it is what is known as a "common law mark"; that is, it's a name that NAPBL claims rights to because it has used it for many years. The NAPBL does have a registered trademark for "Minor League Baseball and Design." (3) A jury has determined that "minor league baseball" is a "generic" or common term. According to this Website [2], "Generic terms are common words or terms, often found in the dictionary, that identify products and services and are not specific to any particular source. It is not possible to register as a trademark a term that is generic for the goods/services identified in the application." Although I'm not a lawyer, that suggests to me that independent leagues may have the right to describe themselves as "minor league baseball." BRMo (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
1902-1914
editIs there a reason that the 1902-1914 seasons are omitted from the history on this page? The 1903 team won the championship, and the 1904 team came very close. I believe Miller Huggins (who later managed the Cardinals and "Murderers Row" Yankees) was part of that roster. There was a lot of activity concerning where the club played during this period, too. Just curious if the history from those years should be included here or elsewhere. Thanks! Formeat (talk) 08:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
New Saints are not the Old Saints
editis it really fair or historically accurate for a franchise established in 1993 to have the history of two other, discrete organizations as part of their history. The Saints from 1915-1960 were a different organization that dissolved in Omaha in 1962 and really do not have a continuity with the new Saints. It seems a little disingenuous and IMHO requires a few articles for each different iteration of the teams.--ColonelHenry (talk) 19:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Page Split?
editThe current St Paul Saints are not the same organization (or in the same league) as either of the previous incarnations. This issue also came up on the Tucson Toros site where an non-affiliated team has taken on the name of the previous AAA team. Shouldn't the pages be split so that there are separate pages for the affiliated and non-affiliated teams? Ckruschke (talk) 07:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke