Talk:Stan Wawrinka
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Removal of purported spam links
editIt seems there is disagreement about 3 links in the Stanislas Wawrinka#External links section. Some editors believe they are spam links while others do not. The 3 links are:
- Wawrinka Recent Match Results
- Wawrinka World Ranking History
- Stanislas Wawrinka profile on Information Tennis
From what I can see the two steveghelper links do not contain any adverts and do contain additional useful information that isn't in the article. Similarly the informationtennis link contains additional biographical information and no adverts. So how are these spam links? --EPadmirateur (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- According to WP:ELNO point #9, the steveghelper links are to be avoided because they are the result of searches, not that they are "spam links". --EPadmirateur (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- According to User:LeaveSleaves, the informationtennis site is "a commercial site of a marketing group with no official connection any of the tennis organizations. Plus it provides very little information, which itself is outdated and not updated." Those who disagree should take this question up with this user. --EPadmirateur (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- In addition, a short discussion took place last September on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tennis about this subject, see WT:WikiProject_Tennis#External_link_www.informationtennis.com. I suggest that before we get into another edit war about this link, please take the discussion up there. One other editor agrees that informationtennis is a commercial site ("I agree that those links are basically spam"). This site does solicit and apparently displays advertising. But it also has good biographical information, as far as I can tell, more than is in the article here. However, LeaveSleaves thinks that it is out of date and not updated. I don't see how much different this site is from Internet Movie Database which is certainly a commercial site and solicits advertising. --EPadmirateur (talk) 16:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- The links fails WP:EL on multiple counts. It has outdated information regarding player records. It has no known affiliation with any of the tennis related associations. The primary objective of the site is towards marketing and player representation. There is no indication as to how the information available on the site has been sourced. There is no current consensus on addition of this link in tennis articles.
- User:Tennis Expert5, whose edits include few other than addition of these links in different articles, is falsely purporting that this is an official and approved link when it is neither. LeaveSleaves talk 17:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- Let's move the discussion of informationtennis to WT:WikiProject_Tennis#External_link_www.informationtennis.com. No need to post in two places and others can join in. Thanks. --EPadmirateur (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Name pronunciation
editCan anyone clarify how his name is pronounced? Feudonym (talk) 09:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- From what I can tell, the German pronunciation is [ˈstaːnislaʊs vavˈʁiːŋkə]. I put that in the lede, but it was removed by EdvardMunch with the comment that I "obviously have no idea what [I'm] talking about". It is unclear which is his native language (whose pronunciation should be primary). His father is German, and his mother is Swiss (French-speaking?), not to mention his Polish-origin surname or his supposed Czech grandparents. This would be somewhat easier if I could find an interview with him pronouncing it himself. For what it's worth, English sportscasters use /ˈstænɨslɑːs vɑːvˈrɪŋkə/. — ˈzɪzɨvə (talk) 19:43, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- The German pronunciation couldn't possibly be [ˈstaːnislaʊs vavˈʁiːŋkə]. The letter a is never pronounced as [ə] or [aʊ] in German (or French, Polish or Czech, for that matter). Nor is i ever pronounced as [iː] in this position. Anyway, we don't know whether he even speaks German. – EdvardMunch (talk) 10:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- I was working from Forvo, for what it's worth. — ˈzɪzɨvə (talk) 00:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Stanislas Wawrinka comes from the Canton of Vaud and only speaks French and English. He can't speak German, so the German pronunciation is irrelevant. Dekox (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- The German pronunciation couldn't possibly be [ˈstaːnislaʊs vavˈʁiːŋkə]. The letter a is never pronounced as [ə] or [aʊ] in German (or French, Polish or Czech, for that matter). Nor is i ever pronounced as [iː] in this position. Anyway, we don't know whether he even speaks German. – EdvardMunch (talk) 10:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- Here is what I propose for the pronunciation (in original French): vavʁiŋka. As I said, the pronunciation in German is irrelevant. Wawrinka does not speak German and comes from the French speaking part of Switzerland. The fact that his name is of German origin does not matter. It should be pronounced the way Stan Wawrinka says it himself in his mother tongue. For instance, Baton Rouge, in Louisiana, is described on wikipedia as being pronounced bætən ˈruːʒ, not batɔ̃ ʁuʒ like in the original French. Dekox (talk) 10:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Milka link?
editStanislas father being the founder (and major shareholder) of "Swiss" chocolate Milka? I really doubt this is true and think this is a joke. First of all, Milka is not really a Swiss chocolate but was founded in Austria. Secondly, and more importantly, Milka was founded by Philipe Suchard in the very early 20th Century (which I assume is way before Wawrinka's father was born!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.247.1 (talk) 21:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ethnicity
editHow can any normal person claim that his last name is Polish, while his father is German, his mother is “Swiss”, and his grandparents (on mother's side?) are Czech? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.90.58.73 (talk) 12:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
His mother's side has nothing to do with his last name. It is quite common for a German to have a Polish (in origin) last name. That said, "Wawrinka" does not sound particularly Polish. It may be altered Polish surname or the origin is slavic but not Polish, possibly Sorbian or Czech. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.222.86.94 (talk) 12:58, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Tattoo
editWhat was the occasion (the failure) that caused him to get the tattoo? I can not find a definitive reference. - Peter Ellis - Talk 09:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- More likely he just came across the quote and liked it. Rothorpe (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- There's a German article -> He randomly came across the quote and found out, that it fits his philosophy of life. He then took 6 months of time to think about the location, where he wants it on his body and then he let it be done. He has an additional tattoo of his daughters name. Manidergrosse (talk) 16:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Troll/s
editThere's a little baby using the IP address '220.233.113.163' that twice now has edited the page to try and claim Wawrinka's Australian Open win was undeserved, going as far as to say he "cheated" in the first instance then later saying "most tennis experts" say Nadal would have won easily if he wasn't injured when there's nothing to back this up at all, quite the opposite in fact. Either block his IP from editing or lock the page until he's done throwing his tantrum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.47.46 (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC) Update: you can add '49.207.104.234' to the list as he's just blanked the entire section on 2014 for no reason. The page should be locked. Ironically the Nadal page has the opposite problem as that one is locked but nobody's updated it to give details on the final.2.28.47.46 (talk) 17:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Picture
editIs there any chance we can get the picture changed? It doesn't really show what he looks like and there are better ones on WikiCommons that show his face like this one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stanislas_Wawrinka_Wimbledon_2013.jpg?uselang=en-gb and this one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stanislas_Wawrinka_at_Olympics_2012.jpg?uselang=en-gb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.54.238 (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
"Stan"?
editThe ATP website (as well as the press and other official websites) recently agreed that he be registered as "Stan Wawrinka" instead of "Stanislas Wawrinka". Should Wikipedia follow the ATP on this? --Madarjeen (talk) 12:26, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Considering how long he has been around for, probably not a good idea to move it. Although I would not disagree with a redirect of stan to this page.Disability expert (talk) 13:29, 23 May 2014 (UTC)- I have put "Stan" at the top of the page between his first and last names (i.e. Stanislas "Stan" Wawrinka) complete with reference, so there is at least now some means of informing people that he now goes by the shortened version of his name. Thetradge (talk) 21:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.22.85 (talk)
Nobody calls him like that. It should be Stanislas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.100.105 (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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Is Stan playing in the French Open 2023? 2600:1702:3651:70C0:54A8:422B:C3DE:AB7 (talk) 22:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)