Talk:Standard Moroccan Amazigh

Relationship to Central Atlas Tamazight?

This is not the only article dedicated to the language designated by ISO 639-3 as tzm. The other one is Central Atlas Tamazight. It is not clear why a separate article is warranted. And interestingly the other article is not even linked to. --AFBorchert (talk) 18:15, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

@AFBorchert:, this language is designated as zgh, not tzm. Peaceray (talk) 07:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

@Peaceray: At the time when I wrote my comment, the language this article refers to was designated as "tzm". This has been changed afterwards. As tiny as the article is, it is at least a relief that in the meantime it found a unique ISO 639-3 code. --AFBorchert (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Renaming Standard Moroccan Berber

According to the ISO 639-2 "ZGH", the preferred variant name is Moroccan Amazigh — Preceding unsigned comment added by YesIn (talk • contribs) 23:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Moving Article to Standard Moroccan Tamazight

The language is classified as https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/zgh Standard Moroccan Tamazight and should be renamed to reflect that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paolorausch (talk • contribs) 23:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Please drop the "Berber" term!

Please drop the "Berber" term! It is an unofficial, historically inaccurate exonym. It is highly controversial and often used and/or perceived as a ethnic slur (meaning barbarian). The term "Berber" was applied to Amazigh inhabitants of north Africa by the invaders and opponents of their autonomy. The use of this term should immediately cease, unless it is contextualized. Beetrooot (talk) 13:41, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Beetrooot: Please provide citations from reliable sources about this. Peaceray (talk) 00:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Without at all endorsing the previous comment - in English or for that matter French, Berber is not a slur, even if بربر may in some contexts be considered as such in Arabic - I would agree that Amazigh would be a better name for this specific article. As the article explains, the creation of this standard language has been entrusted to IRCAM, which - as you can see from their site - calls the language "Tamazight" in Berber, "Amazighe" in French, and "Amazighiyyah" in Arabic. In their English-language publications they seem to use "Amazigh", e.g. [1], [2]. The best title for this article would therefore be "Standard Moroccan Amazigh", in accordance with the practice of its regulatory body. - Lameen Souag (talk) 16:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)